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043 - Prep for the Play 25 Tour

Moby (00:00:11):

Okay, so Lindsay,

Lindsay (00:00:13):

So Moby,

Moby (00:00:14):

We have been away for a little while.

Lindsay (00:00:17):

We took a little break, but we were very busy during our break.

Moby (00:00:21):

So one of the reasons we took a break is because we were making our first movie

Lindsay (00:00:26):

TECIE

Moby (00:00:27):

TECIE, which hopefully will be released next year.

Lindsay (00:00:31):

Can't wait. It was so much fun to shoot. I'm just so excited to, well, a see it ourselves because it's getting edited right now. So we haven't seen it. But I'm really excited to share what we shot with all of our friends and everybody who listens to this podcast.

Moby (00:00:45):

And the moment that we finished shooting TECIE, I started the process that we're going to talk about today.

Lindsay (00:00:53):

Do you wanna say,

Moby (00:00:56):

So I am going on tour <laugh>, we've talked about it a little bit.

Lindsay (00:01:02):

Yeah. We all knew it was

Moby (00:01:03):

Happening, but when I mentioned I was going on tour and that there was going to be rehearsals, and when I mentioned rehearsals and tour prep, you expressed curiosity around what rehearse, tour rehearsal and tour preparation meant, like what, what's involved in getting ready to tour. Whereas for me, it's, it's a really basic thing. 'cause I've done it hundreds of times over the last 30 some odd years.

Lindsay (00:01:28):

Yeah. I mean, I, 'cause, you know, just fun fact about me, I've, I've prepped many musicals, <laugh> for exhibition.

Moby (00:01:36):

Mm-Hmm.

Lindsay (00:01:37):

<affirmative>. Um, but I've never prepped a, a tour like this because I am not a musician. So I was like, well, what do you do? Do you have to just do all your choreography and bedazzle your shirts? Or like, what is it?

Moby (00:01:51):

And then I had to be the bearer of sad, sad tings and say, no <laugh>. As disappointing as this is, there's no choreography. No. And probably for the best, there's no bedazzling. I don't

Lindsay (00:02:06):

Think that could ever be for the best.

Moby (00:02:08):

I am just a disappointment. And I accept that. And

Lindsay (00:02:13):

No, no

Moby (00:02:14):

Comforted with that

Lindsay (00:02:14):

Fact. Every day in my life, everyone has their strong traits and maybe bedazzling and choreo are not yours.

Moby (00:02:21):

Yeah. Let's work with that. Yeah. So, so today we're just gonna talk about what's actually involved in getting ready to go on tour. And I hope it's interesting 'cause to me it seems potentially a little basic, but then I remember, as I said, I've spent 30 some odd years getting ready to go on tour. And so every part of it seems normal to me, but perhaps to you and hopefully to the people listening, it will maybe be interesting. And also, we're actually gonna go to the recording studio, meet the musicians, learn what everyone does, et cetera. I probably should have mentioned that at the beginning.

Lindsay (00:02:56):

Well, but also, what a surprise, you know, for anyone that didn't expect it. <laugh>. So one of the most interesting things I think about you going on tour is a, the fact that touring is not necessarily something that you love more than anything on this planet.

Moby (00:03:15):

I love playing music. I love sitting in the backyard with our friends eating vegan pizza. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and playing old classic rock songs like Hotel California on acoustic guitar. Like that's my ideal tour is like, I leave my living room, I go outside, I have some vegan pizza, I play an eagle song on acoustic guitar, and I go back inside and watch tv. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> like that to me is how that's my perfect tour. Anything more than that makes me a little anxious.

Lindsay (00:03:46):

And, but mostly it's the travel. Right. Would you say it's the traveling and the hotels and stuff that makes it so hard for you?

Moby (00:03:54):

Yeah. I don't want to complain, but I really like the simplicity and healthy nature of my life at home. Yeah. I love sleeping in my bed. I love having my daily smoothie. I love going hiking up the mountains. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And when I go on tour, I don't get those things. Yeah. And, and I know that might sound really basic and pedestrian, but like, I don't know, I touring felt, began to feel very repetitive to me. And the way that I was, we might've talked about this, but the way I was convinced to do this tour is to give all the money to animal rights organizations. So that was the way my manager Eric tricked me into doing the tour. 'cause he knew I couldn't say no to that.

Lindsay (00:04:38):

Yeah. I mean, it's so funny that you'll do it only as long as you don't make a dollar <laugh>. It's ridiculous. Um, but also

Moby (00:04:45):

I think, I mean, he could have sweetened the deal and said, okay, you give all the money to animal rights organizations and you have to sleep on the sidewalk in front of the venue while people kick you. I would've been like, you know what? Okay, you've just sweetened the deal.

Lindsay (00:04:56):

What were those like, religious people throughout history that would like wear hair shirts and like whip themselves to pray?

Moby (00:05:04):

I feel

Lindsay (00:05:04):

Like through a version of that, there is a long,

Moby (00:05:06):

Like a modern

Lindsay (00:05:06):

Version.

Moby (00:05:07):

Well, but I, I do like comfort. I like sitting on a couch and enjoying dirty rock. Sure. So I wanna say mendicant,

Lindsay (00:05:15):

That could be it. It sounds right, but I don't know. Um, someone with Google will know there's, that's everyone.

Moby (00:05:21):

Oh, there's a, there's an expression for when they do that, when they wear the hair shirts, when they beat themselves, there is self-flagellation. But there's another, the, the bigger process that's the verb.

Lindsay (00:05:32):

Like penitence.

Moby (00:05:33):

It's penitence, but there's something else is going on. Like what's the PI any case there's a weird ecclesiastical word.

Lindsay (00:05:42):

Oh, well, I don't know what that is, but,

Moby (00:05:43):

So any case tour prep,

Lindsay (00:05:45):

But also something that I think is really interesting about this, and we'll get to like the music stuff later. But I do think that like the mental game of the way that you're preparing yourself, because I know that you battle with insomnia.

Moby (00:05:58):

It's sleeping. It's not my strong suit. The okay, it's, it, it's in the same bucket as choreography and bedazzling. In fact, I could even say I'm worse at sleeping than choreography and bedazzling, keeping in mind I'm terrible at choreography and bedazzling. Yes,

Lindsay (00:06:13):

You are notoriously terrible at sleeping. Yeah. Um, your brain is like, I, you can't get me down. Um,

Moby (00:06:22):

If you've ever seen a squirrel who's gotten into a bag of amphetamines, that's, that's your brain. That's kind of what my brain does at night.

Lindsay (00:06:30):

I know. Because I'll wake up at, like, I wake up relatively early, relatively early at 6:00 AM but I'll wake up to like long text from you that I know you've been stewing on all night long <laugh>. And I'm like, I'm sure Moy waited like seven or eight hours before he sent this to me, and it still came in at 5:00 AM. Um, so anyway, so because you battle with sleep and insomnia, how are you preparing to like sleep? It's such a huge part of life and staying energetic to be able to get up there and perform every night. So you have a very specific plan. Yeah.

Moby (00:07:06):

And it sounds insane, but it's deeply practical is so there's one time, I guess maybe 20 years ago I was in Los Angeles and I was playing, I was DJing, I was playing raves. So as a result, I was staying up late, like staying up till like three or four in the morning. And I went from LA to the uk and my time zone, my body clock, my circadian rhythm was set to Los Angeles. So when I was in the uk, I would sit in the hotel room until like, from midnight to noon, not being tired. If you've ever seen the beginning of the movie Apocalypse Now, I felt like Martin Sheen in the beginning of Apocalypse Now, just losing my mind, not sleeping. And it was very few people, thankfully, have ever experienced true insomnia. And true insomnia is when days go by and you sit, when normally when someone says insomnia, they mean they've slept for five hours. True insomnia is what I experienced, which was three days of no sleep. And by the end of day three, it's, it's, it's not pleasant. Like you

Lindsay (00:08:18):

Don't, your like ears start bleeding or something. You

Moby (00:08:20):

Start, you function wrong. Like you feel a weird heat. Like your, your skin has a heat to it and the world feels dry and unpleasant and you can't think normally it's a, it, everything about it is unpleasant. Then finally, someone gave me, uh, a sleeping pill. Um, I, I forget the type of sleeping pill and it worked and all of a sudden I slept. And that, but,

Lindsay (00:08:49):

And that changed you, that kind of reset you properly, like you needed

Moby (00:08:52):

A few days of those sleeping pills. Yeah, yeah. And so what I've learned, that's my long-winded way of saying, here's what I've learned is what I need to do in Los Angeles before going to Europe is pretend I'm on UK time in la. And what that means is I wake up here at two 30 in the morning because two 30 in the morning here is 10 30 in the morning in the uk, which is still late in the uk. So for the last, ever since we finished shooting the movie, I've been waking up at two 30 or three o'clock in the morning. So when I get to the UK, I'll be ready ish.

Lindsay (00:09:30):

Wow.

Moby (00:09:31):

It's, I know, it's so extreme. Um, it, yeah. The other nice aspect of that is the world is very quiet in Los Angeles at two 30 in the morning, I'll go hiking at like three 30 or four. Oh,

Lindsay (00:09:46):

Aren't you afraid the bears will get you?

Moby (00:09:48):

Uh, less so bears more so crazy people. Oh yeah. Worry more about the crazy people than the Bears.

Lindsay (00:09:56):

Okay, well that makes sense. So

Moby (00:09:58):

Yeah. So that's what I've been doing for the last few weeks. It's kind of amazing. We've been talking now for almost 15 minutes and we haven't

Lindsay (00:10:05):

Even gotten to music. Um, but also we're going to learn what's happening on the stage anyway. We have Okay. We've talked about like the emotional mental prep, but let's talk a little bit about the music side of things. So I know that this is the Play 25 tour, 25th anniversary of Play. So it's very Play focused. The set list,

Moby (00:10:30):

You know, that's what's weird. It isn't

Lindsay (00:10:32):

What on earth do you mean? <laugh>?

Moby (00:10:36):

It's a greatest hits show. Uh, meaning when I go to when, okay, maybe you're different, maybe other people are different. But when I go to see a band or a musician, I want them to play the hits. You know, I want, I want to hear my favorite songs. I don't really want to hear the songs. I don't know.

Lindsay (00:10:57):

They're more fun. If you can sing along. Let's just be honest about that. Especially

Moby (00:11:01):

If it's an older musician who's put out a bunch of records. Like if I go see, I've, I, I'll mention, I've mentioned Duran Duran. If I go see Duran Duran and they say this is a new song, that's when I go get a bottle of water. You know? 'cause you wanna hear Hungry Like The Wolf and The Reflex and Girls on Film. Like, I want the Hits. And then there are these musicians who won't play their their hits. And I'm like, come on, you have hits. You have songs that people want to hear. They ma it's songs that make people happy. Play them. Like the goal of the Goal. Why did I think, that's not a real word. The goal of going on. I was like going because

Lindsay (00:11:36):

You woke up at two 30 this morning.

Moby (00:11:37):

Yeah. The goal of going on tour, apart from raising money for animal rights organizations is to create something that the audience loves, that they enjoy, that they feel inspired by, and that involves hits. Yeah. So really it's a greatest hit show and Play features prominently in it. But I'd say half the songs on the tour are from Play and half the songs are from other records.

Lindsay (00:12:02):

Okay. That, I mean, that's really fun. So how did, so you only, you decided how you put the set list together by just the hits songs that had popularity,

Moby (00:12:11):

Songs that I, that over the years I've found out that people really like some obvious ones just looking at like Spotify numbers. It's like, well, Porcelain, Extreme Ways, Why Does My Heart Feel So Bad? You gotta have those there. Flower, um, and then some more obscure ones, but that people seem to really like, like When It's Cold, I'd Like To Die. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>,

Lindsay (00:12:30):

Um, Stranger Things, hello

Moby (00:12:32):

And Natural Blues. And so it's, it's songs that quantitatively, qualitatively, I feel like people would like to hear.

Lindsay (00:12:41):

That's great. So then, so at some point you put together your set list and then like, and maybe these, I'm asking really basic questions.

Moby (00:12:51):

Do you No, I love basic questions because that indicates that what we're talking about might actually be interesting. Okay.

Lindsay (00:12:58):

Maybe. Well, it is to me at least. So once you have your set list in mind, how do you figure out your band situation? Like, how many singers do you have? A, a keyboard, a bass, like what, you know, you chose to have strings. Like how did you decide what you needed for this specific tour?

Moby (00:13:15):

I think part of it, it's, it's, the criteria is threefold. One, the musical aspect, which is in order to play the songs, who do I need on stage? Who's capable of playing them? Right? You know, if a song has strings, clearly I need string players. Oh, a song has drums. I need a drummer. Oh, the song has beautiful female vocals. I need women with beautiful voices. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Oh, the songs have keyboards. I need a keyboard player, et cetera, et cetera. And so that's the basic criteria by which the band is compiled.

Lindsay (00:13:54):

And then some of these people in the band you've worked with before, but some you haven't. Is there anyone that you haven't worked with before?

Moby (00:14:02):

No. Everybody. They're all friends. They're all people I've worked with before, before either in the studio or playing shows or what have you. And then so the second here's, okay, forgive me if this is vain or aesthetic. The second criteria is the visual component. I want, if you're putting people on stage, they, apart from me, they should look great. And so luckily all of these talented musicians also look really good.

Lindsay (00:14:31):

They're cool and they're beautiful and they're really good at singing. Like

Moby (00:14:34):

When I, I remember one time going to see, I'm not gonna name names, but I went to go see a musician I really like, and she had put together a band and she looked amazing, like inspiring, glamorous, dramatic. And the band looked like dudes who'd walked in off the street. And I was like, by all means, look like a dude who's walked in off the street, but not on stage. Like, if you're getting on stage in front of 20,000 people, make some maybe not choreography or bedazzling,

Lindsay (00:15:01):

Like a bedazzled vest might have changed your entire experience

Moby (00:15:04):

<laugh>. And so that, so, so like the band I've put together, they're great musicians, they're great vocalists, and they also look wonderful. And then the last selfish most important criteria for me is how do I get along with these people? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Because this is because

Lindsay (00:15:21):

You're gonna be on the road with them.

Moby (00:15:22):

It's only 10 days, but still, like I've toured with unpleasant people. I've toured with difficult people,

Lindsay (00:15:28):

Name names,

Moby (00:15:29):

I'm not gonna name names <laugh>, but I've toured with people who make other people's lives miserable. And it's, you're on a bus with these people. You're backstage, you're on stage, like you're with them 24 hours a day. Yeah. And like if someone has a terrible attitude or if someone isn't is entitled it, it makes it, it really compromises the whole thing. I mean, I've had some boy if I had some very challenging experiences with that. So yeah. Great musicians who look great, who are also incredibly easy to get along with.

Lindsay (00:16:00):

Yes. The band, and I can say this because as mentioned, we are gonna go to the rehearsal studio. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But also I've worked with all of these, um, the band members before too. And they're all amazing and so fun to watch. Um, I'm so excited for everyone that gets to see them because they're very good. So you did a good job there. Your casting skills are phenomenal.

Moby (00:16:23):

Thank you.

Lindsay (00:16:25):

Um, so then you provide them the set list and I guess they just, like, how do they know? How do they learn the parts? Oh, do they do, do, are there like I write the s music for everything.

Moby (00:16:38):

So I write the chord structure. Uh, obviously like singers don't need chord structure, they just need lyrics and vocal melodies. Yeah. But, um, Julie, the keyboard player and our string section and Jonathan, like, they need chords. They need.

Moby (00:16:54):

Sheet music proper.

Moby (00:16:56):

It's not, I don't, I don't make sheet music necessarily. Julie does Julie's 'cause she's the keyboard player. So she turns my chord structure into sheet. Musics amazing because she's such, such little overachiever. Aw. And yeah. So I go through and I write down the chords and the arrangement for the song, and I get them to the musicians and they learn the songs on their own. And then we begin the process that we're trying to document today, which is the actual rehearsal.

Lindsay (00:17:23):

Yeah. I mean, I am, I am so impressed with the way that, um, everyone showed up so prepared and so ready and so excited. And part of me thinks maybe we should go have, go do that now. Go and watch rehearsal.

Moby (00:17:38):

Let me think. We've

Lindsay (00:17:39):

Been talking so much about rehearsal.

Moby (00:17:41):

Oh, we didn't talk about one thing. What's

Lindsay (00:17:43):

That?

Moby (00:17:44):

Um, how I remember to play the songs.

Lindsay (00:17:48):

See, I guess I just always assume it all just lives in there behind some dark little cobwebby door.

Moby (00:17:54):

It does live in there. There being my brain <laugh> behind some cobwebby little door, which is not a euphemism for anything. 'cause I actually do have cobwebby little doors inside my brain, <laugh>. So yeah, everything does live in there, but sometimes I have to remember, like, some songs are so simple. I, I can't forget them. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, you know, I do have some songs that are just like the song Go It. I play percussion. So it's basically, I play percussion, bongo

Lindsay (00:18:26):

Bongo,

Moby (00:18:26):

Conga congas. So there's not much to remember there. It's like, oh, the song plays and I play congas on top of it. Like, that's pretty easy.

Lindsay (00:18:34):

Whoa, whoa, whoa. Hold on. What's the difference between a bongo and a conga?

Moby (00:18:38):

Bongos are little congas are bigger. Oh. Bongos are about 10 inches deep. Congas are like three feet deep.

Lindsay (00:18:46):

Wow. Fascinating.

Moby (00:18:48):

Yeah. Um, but then a song like Slipping Away, like Slipping Away is a very complicated structural song.

Lindsay (00:18:55):

I never knew

Moby (00:18:56):

I, it might not sound complicated, but it's actually got different parts and different chords and there, so like I, it took me like 10 times playing it recently to try and remember how it's actually played.

Lindsay (00:19:09):

That's fascinating. So basically you just have to like, do go just practice. Yeah. Just practice all the songs and make sure you got 'em. Yeah. And

Moby (00:19:18):

Sometimes it's easy, but sometimes it's like, weirdly, I don't think I write complicated songs, but some of them are more complicated than others.

Lindsay (00:19:27):

Question. When you're performing a song on the stage, do you, what are you thinking about? Are you thinking about like the next lyric or do you have like a kind of like a emotional journey going on in your head that like, gets the song into your body? Or do you just go on like, um, on autopilot? Like what happens in your brain holes?

Moby (00:19:50):

Well, sometimes I'm thinking about how the song was written and how interesting it is to be playing a song in front of tens of thousands of people when the song was written by me alone in a loft in New York. Yeah. Uh, that's sometimes is interesting to think about. Sometimes I think about where I've been during, I mean granted all this sounds very self-involved, but like, where I've been at times where I've played this song and also what was going on in my life like 2006 playing this song at a festival, a hundred thousand people. But I'm hungover and in such a weird, bad, different place. Uh, or do you wanna know why I don't allow myself to play video games? Why? Because the year is 1999 and I'm on tour in the United States and my friend Pablo has brought a video game machine Xbox or something in

Lindsay (00:20:52):

64

Moby (00:20:52):

Or something. Something on the bus.

Lindsay (00:20:54):

Okay.

Moby (00:20:55):

And with a copy of Grand Theft Auto. Oh

Lindsay (00:20:58):

God.

Moby (00:20:58):

And so we all started, we, the band grew, we all started playing Grand Theft Auto on tour and it became obsessive. And there was one night where I was on tour, I think in Phoenix, somewhere in the American Southwest. And I was on stage. And normally when I'm on stage, I love performing. I love the music, I love the emotion. I was on stage and all I wanted to do was finish the set so I could go back to the bus and play Grand Theft Auto. Oh

Lindsay (00:21:26):

My gosh. Detective

Moby (00:21:27):

Ever since that I was like, this is bad. I also had started having dreams about Grand Theft Auto. Whoa. Clearly this speaks to the success of Grand Theft Auto. But I, I went cold Turkey after that experience. Like, if you're on stage no stage, you're playing front of 10,000 people, you're trying to respect people's experience and you're trying to create this emotion and in the back of your brain you're like, wow, I can't wait to get on the bus to play the video. Yeah. That's not good. That's not. So from that day forward, I've cut myself off from video games. 'cause I am, just as I'm addicted to alcohol and cocaine, I would be absolutely addicted to video games.

Lindsay (00:22:04):

I see. I mean, it's a very addictive thing. Bagel wants to come sit with you. Do you wanna come sit up here? Come on, you can do it. So come on, girl. Um, you gotta stay present. You really gotta stay present. Do you ever get nervous? Hmm.

Moby (00:22:20):

As we've discussed? You know me pretty well. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. There are lots of things in the world that make me nervous and uncomfortable. Uh, but nothing about touring does really, which is

Lindsay (00:22:33):

Weird. Nothing about performing the shows does

Moby (00:22:36):

Perf Oh yeah. Touring. Like I get nervous about not sleeping. Right. But performing. No, I mean, I've had that experience where like, I'll be standing on the side of the stage getting ready to play for 75,000 people. I think we talked about this once before, but like, and I'm as calm as if I'm like sitting by a mountain stream, but put me in line at Whole Foods on a busy Friday and I have a panic attack. Yeah. Like, so Whole Foods, when and when it's busy. That's terrifying. Um, going to a party where I know a bunch of loud mouths are gonna be talking at me, that makes me uncomfortable. <laugh> performing in front of 75,000 people. No, it's, that's a, that's easy.

Lindsay (00:23:24):

So it's like the inverse of most people on this planet.

Moby (00:23:27):

I guess so.

Lindsay (00:23:28):

I think so. Um, okay. Do you think now is a good time to go? Now?

Moby (00:23:33):

Is a, I mean, it might have been a great time 10 minutes ago. I just, you know, you gave me a chance to ramble on. So <laugh>

Lindsay (00:23:39):

Well, let's go, let's go to the rehearsal studio and you will show me how everything works on stage and we'll even do some interviews with our band.

Lindsay (00:24:03):

Uh, hi Julie.

Julie Mintz (00:24:04):

Oh, hi.

Lindsay (00:24:06):

Um, okay, so we're just going to have some like, basic tour questions, but feel free to go off, you know what I mean?

Julie Mintz (00:24:12):

Okay. I'd love to.

Lindsay (00:24:13):

Okay. So first of all, can you just tell everyone your name and, um, what you're doing on the tour?

Julie Mintz (00:24:21):

My name is Julie Mintz and, um, I'm playing keys and synths and singing, background vocals on tour.

Lindsay (00:24:30):

That's very, very fun. But you've done this before, haven't you? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> with Moby?

Julie Mintz (00:24:34):

I have, yes. Um, we did it for the Moby, what was it, the big show at the, um, not the Wiltern, The Fonda.

Moby (00:24:44):

Oh, the three shows there. Yeah.

Julie Mintz (00:24:45):

Yeah.

Lindsay (00:24:46):

I saw that. You were really good.

Julie Mintz (00:24:47):

Thank you.

Lindsay (00:24:48):

Boy, do you know your stuff?

Julie Mintz (00:24:49):

It's been a while though.

Lindsay (00:24:50):

Okay.

Julie Mintz (00:24:51):

Okay.

Lindsay (00:24:51):

So how do you feel about going on tour?

Julie Mintz (00:24:56):

Okay, so I'm super excited. Um, I am like very obsessive about packing and organ organization, so I'm really curious to see how we're gonna sleep on a bus and shower at the venues. Not have.

Lindsay (00:25:13):

You're gonna shower at the venues?

Julie Mintz (00:25:14):

Yeah, we don't have hotel rooms.

Lindsay (00:25:16):

They is there no shower on the bus?

Julie Mintz (00:25:19):

You don't shower on the bus, you don't? No. And you don't wash your face on the bus. You don't,

Lindsay (00:25:23):

Can you pee on there?

Julie Mintz (00:25:24):

Yeah. Only pee only number one.

Lindsay (00:25:26):

You not number two,

Julie Mintz (00:25:27):

correct

Lindsay (00:25:28):

No, I did know that. But you can't wash your face on the bus.

Julie Mintz (00:25:31):

Well, I would say that if you're a girl or or anyone that cares about hygiene, you would not use the water on the bus to cleanse any part of your body.

Lindsay (00:25:40):

Oh my God. Okay. This is, this is honestly very hot goss to me.

Julie Mintz (00:25:46):

Right?

Lindsay (00:25:47):

I did not know that.

Julie Mintz (00:25:47):

I think we could do a whole podcast on, um, like.

Lindsay (00:25:51):

tour sanitation?

Julie Mintz (00:25:52):

Yeah. Tour hygiene and packing. Um, so what are you gonna do at night to watch? You're gonna have to do it all at the venues. Yeah. So you take your day bag in, and then you do with all your toiletries, and then you get ready for bed in the venue,

Lindsay (00:26:07):

Julie.

Julie Mintz (00:26:07):

And then you walk from the venue to the bus in your jammies, right?

Lindsay (00:26:11):

Life of a performer. Well, I'm, where are you gonna shower? Moby.

Julie Mintz (00:26:15):

Moby's clothes are his jammies.

Moby (00:26:17):

No, I have jammies.

Julie Mintz (00:26:18):

You have jam. Oh. But see, Moby has a room on the bus so he can.

Moby (00:26:21):

Oh, so I have no pre tip.

Julie Mintz (00:26:23):

Right? He doesn't have to put like five beauty parts jellies on his face, five face jellies. And also he can change in his room. This, this might not be interesting to your listeners if they're not.

Lindsay (00:26:32):

Well, I love it.

Julie Mintz (00:26:34):

But if you're in a little bunk, how can you change into your jammies?

Lindsay (00:26:38):

How, what are you gonna do? Are you just gonna get naked in front of everyone all the time?

Julie Mintz (00:26:40):

No, you change, you put your jammies on in the venue.

Lindsay (00:26:43):

Oh, okay. So you just go to sleep as soon as you're on the bus?

Julie Mintz (00:26:45):

Well, you can hang out in your jammies, I guess.

Lindsay (00:26:48):

I guess. Okay. Sorry. I'm just talking to Julie and I just love this conversation. It's really hard. Okay, so, okay, next question.

Julie Mintz (00:26:55):

Okay.

Lindsay (00:26:56):

Um, how have you been mentally preparing for tour? Okay, so I've just been, uh, listening to the songs and practicing a lot. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. I also have some, I'm learning some really big personal news while I'm on tour. Can I share that Moby?

Moby (00:27:13):

Yeah, sure.

Julie Mintz (00:27:14):

Okay. So, um, I'm gonna find out if I'm gonna be a mom when I'm on tour. My only chance, that's a very big deal. Only my only chance to be a mom, so truly I know. So I don't know if.

Lindsay (00:27:28):

So it's gonna be a big onstage celebration,

Julie Mintz (00:27:31):

I guess. Or, or no. Really sad. No. Well, I mean, I guess it could just be really good or bad. So it's either feeling. Yeah, I'll, I'll be might be sobbing during "These pen doors". I don't know, because that's, with's always feels really like mournful to me.

Lindsay (00:27:47):

sobbing with joy because that the energy we're putting out there. Yeah. We're trying to be, there's no alternative. It's only thumbs up.

Julie Mintz (00:27:54):

Yeah.

Lindsay (00:27:55):

Um, and how do you physically prepare? Like, I saw a video of Miley Cyrus running and singing at the same time and I was like, is that what everybody does?

Julie Mintz (00:28:03):

Um, good question. I have, um, a walking pad and I've just been walking for an hour while I sing. I don't run and sing.

Lindsay (00:28:11):

Running and running in general is just not, I'm not much of a runner. I know. I mean, who is? I don't know. I yeah. Wild beasts. Um, are you, is there anything that you're very, very excited about on this tour?

Julie Mintz (00:28:26):

I guess I'm most excited to see the crowds because, I don't know, I just dunno what to expect. Like, I've never played a show in Europe and I feel like they love Moby there and I just wanna see how big they're gonna be. I wanna see the venues. And.

Lindsay (00:28:42):

What if everyone, um, is like crying emotional and they have signs that say "Julie, hi."

Julie Mintz (00:28:49):

Oh, I was thinking like they're crying emotional. Like for Moby.

Lindsay (00:28:53):

Well, yeah, for you too.

Lindsay (00:28:54):

Like, he's a Beatle. That would be pretty cool.

Julie Mintz (00:28:56):

But what if Moby's a Beatle and we don't, we didn't know.

Lindsay (00:28:59):

Are you a Beatle there?

Moby (00:29:00):

Like a Kafkaesque Beatle?

Lindsay (00:29:02):

Moby's a Kafkaesque? No. Um, so, okay, so on the bus, I've never been on a tour bus, but I've seen some videos of buses. How do you, how are you guys going to choose who goes in which bunk are you going for? Like a ceiling bunk? Are you going for a floor bunk? Like how are you gonna sort this out?

Julie Mintz (00:29:24):

Oh, shoot. Okay. Moby, just mob just whispered. Floor bunk changed everything for me because I've actually go, I told you before, I'm very obsessive. So I've actually Googled and read a lot about it. And I think I did read that the top ones get hot, but I thought I might want a top one because top I don't want people, the bottom one seems like people would be walking by you a lot. Moby, why is the floor the best?

Moby (00:29:48):

Well, okay, from my perspective, it's just easier. Well, like if you have to wake up in the middle of the night Mm-Hmm. You just like, roll outta bed, walk to the bathroom, get back in to like middle, middle or bottom would be my choice personally.

Julie Mintz (00:30:03):

Okay.

Lindsay (00:30:03):

Also, you have to be, I think about the physics of it, of like, the top of the bus is just gonna be going all over the place, but the bottom is closer to the ground. So when you've been performing before. Okay. Like what are you thinking about when you're singing or playing? Like what is going through your head when you're up there and you're doing it?

Julie Mintz (00:30:22):

Okay. Well, a couple things. Well, a lot of times I, I am actually counting because I'm trying to keep track of where we are. Um, sometimes I get lost in it, which is nice. And then sometimes I try to, um, actually like when I performed with Moby at the Hollywood Bowl, I distinctly remember that I said to myself, just really take in this moment, just look out and appreciate this because this is probably a once in a lifetime opportunity and just take in this memory and appreciate it.

Lindsay (00:30:53):

That's really beautiful. Um, and then if you could say anything to the people that you'll see when you're on tour, what would, what would you say to them?

Julie Mintz (00:31:04):

I guess I would say, I hope they have an amazing experience that the show, and thank you for coming to see Moby and us in turn, but you know, we're just the supporters <laugh>.

Lindsay (00:31:21):

the magic behind the Moby.

Julie Mintz (00:31:23):

Yeah.

Lindsay (00:31:24):

Okay. Great. That's great.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:31:33):

Hi. Hi. Hi. It's so weird to talk into a mic and not hear it in my ears. I'm not here in the

Lindsay (00:31:38):

World. Oh wow. To me, that's the weirdest thing in the world. I don't wanna hear myself <laugh>. Like, it's probably better if you can hear what you're doing. Yeah. Um, that's nice. Okay. Can you just say your name and what you're doing on this tour? Okay.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:31:49):

My name is Nadia Christine Duggin, and I am singing on this tour.

Lindsay (00:31:54):

Very exciting. It's very exciting. I was just listening to you guys rehearse and Oh my God. You sound freaking good. Thank you. Um, is this your first time touring with Moby?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:32:03):

It is my first time touring with Moby. It is. I'm I'm really, I'm jazzed <laugh>.

Lindsay (00:32:10):

Have you done, um, a international tour before? I

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:32:13):

Have, yes. Yes. I've toured a fair bit. I I have toured a fair bit. It's been a while though since I've, you know, been on like a bus tour, so I'm, I'm excited to,

Lindsay (00:32:25):

Just so you know about that hashtag bus life. Yeah,

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:32:28):

I do that. Like rolling coffin bunk life. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:32:32):

Um, how are you, how are you feeling about going out on this tour?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:32:36):

I'm really excited. Um, you know, especially like, I feel like Moby's stuff, I get to use all the different parts of my voice that I love to use. Like, I don't have to just like shift into this gear or shift into that gear. I just, I feel like it gives me like a lot of artistic freedom that I yummy. That's very, and we get to be rock stars. Me,

Lindsay (00:33:01):

Moby just said that Nadia and Choklate get to be rock stars and, but you guys actually are, I mean, it's very fun to watch what you guys do <laugh>. He's moby's calling him musician in the best in the background. Um, how do you mentally physically prepare to go on tour?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:33:22):

Okay. Um, <laugh>,

Lindsay (00:33:25):

Because I know you've got an instrument. Yes.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:33:28):

So

Lindsay (00:33:28):

You're not trying to mess with it. Okay.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:33:29):

Well first, I mean, there's so many technical things that I do to take care of my voice. I mean, I'm going for days, like I'm

Lindsay (00:33:35):

What does that mean? Just staying warm, but also not using your

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:33:38):

Voice? No, no. I do use my voice actually. If I'm going to sing a lot, I need to make sure I'm singing every day and I'm using my voice every day. Mm. So if I, you know, if I have a tour coming up, I'm, I'm doing my warmups. I was doing my warmups every day this week just to make sure that the blood is flowing, like, you know, um, I do cool down. I'd warm up before the show. And one thing that's real is a game changer for me is I do cool downs after the show.

Lindsay (00:34:07):

What does a cool down? So

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:34:08):

A cool down for all the singer out there, it's like you just basically do the easiest warmup in your whatever you do to warm up. You just have to do an octave. So go like five rounds and, um, you just do that at the end of doing a hard gig. 'cause it's like if you run, you have to warm, you have to cool down Totally. You have to stretch, you get a cramp. And it's the same thing if you don't Yeah. You don't wanna just like stop your, you know, stop your instrument all of a sudden. We're getting very technical.

Lindsay (00:34:39):

No, it's, it's amazing. It's fascinating because I don't know anything about that stuff.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:34:42):

Yeah. I'm passionate about, uh, focal health for sure. Well,

Lindsay (00:34:45):

It shows. Um, is there anything that you're especially excited about on this tour?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:34:51):

Oh, I mean, uh, I'm really excited to sing in My Heart. I love that song. It, because it's like, really, not to get all cheesy, but like, that's just how I feel. You know, just like, let me stay in my heart. Let me just, let me get outta my head. Let me get out of like all this stuff. Just let me be where it counts. So I, I love that song and I, I don't know, I just get to get out of the way and, you know, let music happen. I mean, ugh,

Lindsay (00:35:24):

<laugh>, it makes me really excited to watch more rehearsals. Yay. Um, okay, let me ask you one incredibly important question Yes. That all the people wanna know. How are you gonna pick your bunk?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:35:36):

Oh, um, I'm pretty flexible. I probably shouldn't say this in front <laugh>, because I like, okay. I can choose what, um, I'm, I'm kind of okay with anything. Do

Lindsay (00:35:47):

You have a preference?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:35:49):

I don't.

Lindsay (00:35:50):

Do you have a bunk you hate? You hate the bottom bunk? You hate the top bunk? Don't. Well,

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:35:53):

Here's the thing. A lot of my tours, I'm the smallest person, so I always end up on the top bunk. So I'm used to the top bunk. Oh,

Lindsay (00:36:00):

They're, oh. Because it's harder for the bigger people to climb

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:36:03):

To get on up there. The tall

Lindsay (00:36:04):

People up

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:36:04):

There. Yeah. So, you know, I maybe just by virtue of like being used to it, I'm comfortable. I think I'd probably prefer the bottom bunk because it's easier.

Lindsay (00:36:13):

You can just fall right into it. Yeah.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:36:14):

If you're like, and you like, need to go to the bathroom in the middle of the night, you just like,

Lindsay (00:36:17):

Oh yeah. The bathroom in the middle of the night, you have to climb all the way down. Yep. You do work. That's one one point against top bunk right there. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. Um, question?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:36:26):

Yes. Answer.

Lindsay (00:36:27):

The moment before you're about to walk on stage. What's going on in your head? Oh,

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:36:32):

Stay in my heart. Like really, like, just stay in my heart just really is just let me get outta the way. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And just let me just stay in my heart, be present, be present in the moment. Connect with these, this group of people that are never gonna gather like this again. This is like one beautiful magical little family for a second. And, you know, so just, just get outta it. Just outta the way be. Yeah. Just enjoy it.

Lindsay (00:37:01):

I love that. Yeah. Um, when you are, do you ever, whenever you're singing a song, do you ever get too emotional? You're like, uh oh, what? Gosh, if I cry, I can't cry because I'm have to be in my, does that ever happen?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:37:13):

A hundred percent. When I did the last gig that I did when we did the podcast gig almost home, I had to reel it in, like, because

Lindsay (00:37:23):

You were getting emotional.

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:37:24):

'cause I was getting emotional and crying and singing. It's like crying and driving or not great together. You can't do it. You can't do it <laugh>. So yeah, I then I have to just kind of like ground myself, you know? It's a balance. And I mean, this is like another thing, like I've had to sing for. If you sing for somebody, if you sing for a wedding for someone you care about, if you sing for a funeral for someone you care about, you know, just honoring someone you care about. Like that's, I've, I've done that before and, you know, you just have to shift gears, you know? Um, but then you just like shift gears and then you just lose it after <laugh>.

Lindsay (00:38:01):

I mean, sounded sounded great. And then, so we'll just one more question. Oh, okay. Uh, if you could say anything to the people that you're performing for when you're on tour, what would you say to them?

Nadia Christine Duggin (00:38:12):

Just thank you. Like, I'm just so grateful that we get to share time together and swim together and, you know, I'm just really, I'm just really grateful. I'm really, really grateful and I think we're just gonna have a great time and feed off each other, so. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:38:31):

Yay.

Lindsay (00:38:41):

Okay. Can you please say your name and what you're gonna be doing on tour with Moby?

Choklate (00:38:46):

My name is Choklate and I am going to, um, I feel like I'm going to worship on stage with Moby and the crew, but I'm singing background vocals, <laugh>

Lindsay (00:38:56):

Background feels like, 'cause you're singing lead on a couple lead parts.

Choklate (00:39:01):

Yes. Yeah, I'll be singing a couple lead parts as well.

Lindsay (00:39:05):

It's very, I mean, it's beautiful. I'm excited. I'm so excited for everyone gets to watch you do this. Um, is this your first time touring with Mopey?

Choklate (00:39:12):

This is actually my first time touring with any artist in this capacity. Like ever

Lindsay (00:39:17):

As a singer.

Choklate (00:39:18):

Ever. Yeah. I don't accept background singing opportunities because I forget the lyrics to my own songs. <laugh> <laugh>. So I've never accepted an opportunity like this to be honest. But what I noticed and um, was able to kind of like, take solace in with Moby is that he was like, I need you to just be you and do what you do in whatever way it comes to you. And thanks for coming <laugh>. So there's a lot more, I feel like, a lot more freedom artistically. Um, even though there's a lot of structure, I just, I don't know. I just said yes. And I, I feel good that I did 'cause it feels like a good fit. It's a good opportunity to give it another shot. I did it one time long time ago and I was like, I'm never doing that again. <laugh>. But this time feels really different. I, I feel like I'm, it feels like psychedelic church is the best way I can explain it. So I'm in love.

Lindsay (00:40:20):

I mean, it's, it, it really shows when you're up there. Oh. Um, how do you, how do you feel about going out on this tour?

Choklate (00:40:30):

Um, I've been out on tours, um, of this magnitude before. I think for me, because it's been so long, I, and the group of people that I'm with, I'm more, um, I'm just, my mind's really open. I just have a very open mind toward the experience. I know we're gonna be traveling the countryside in a bus and anytime you're that close to nature, um, is good for just your nervous system and your mental health. And I'm excited about all of the things that are in place. The group of people, specifically the, the veganism, the, um, the good vibes tribe. Like, it's all there. It feels like it's gonna be a retreat if I tell the truth about it. <laugh>,

Lindsay (00:41:13):

Um, that's kind of beautiful <laugh>, um, when you're going on a tour specifically. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> this tour. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. How are you mentally, physically preparing for that?

Choklate (00:41:22):

I just throw up every day.

Lindsay (00:41:23):

Just vomiting. Yep.

Choklate (00:41:25):

Just the, yep. I wake up and Have you ever been on a rollercoaster and you're like, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And you get to the top and you're in the car and it's rocking back and forth, and then you're just like, kunk, uhhuh. And then everybody does what? They grab the bars, they're like, ah. I wake up every morning like, ha

Lindsay (00:41:43):

Ha <laugh>.

Choklate (00:41:44):

So it feels like, but I like rollercoasters, so it's fine.

Lindsay (00:41:47):

That's so

Choklate (00:41:49):

A juicy kind of scary.

Lindsay (00:41:52):

So you're enjoying the ride? Oh yeah. Of all the emotions that are involved,

Choklate (00:41:56):

All of them literally <laugh>.

Lindsay (00:41:58):

Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, is there anything that you are particularly excited about?

Choklate (00:42:05):

I feel like the most exciting thing is that I, I was not aware that I would be doing this in September, 2024, in January, 2024. And I think I found out about it somewhere around February or March. So I'm just enjoying the fact that I did not see it coming and I, I just didn't see my career sort of, I don't know, getting all jujed up into this space that it's in right now. And I think I'm just excited to be reminded of who I am artistically and creatively. It's been a while. I sort of forgot and focused on other things. I was like, I'm gonna go be an adult. And I did that with all my heart and made great things happen in adulthood. And now music is really back and it's all Moby's fault.

Lindsay (00:43:01):

<laugh>

Choklate (00:43:02):

Literally <laugh>. But I'm so grateful because I'm really happy I didn't realize how much I missed this. And so, yeah.

Lindsay (00:43:15):

I have to ask you something. Yeah. Very, very important.

Choklate (00:43:17):

Okay.

Lindsay (00:43:19):

How are you going to pick your bunk on the bus?

Choklate (00:43:23):

You know, I'm a team player. <laugh>, I'm gonna just like, go toward whatever bunk calls to me. Okay. But I'm not a, I'll go wherever there is to go.

Lindsay (00:43:33):

You're not gonna fight somebody?

Choklate (00:43:35):

No, I don't. Is it a bed? Can I sleep in it? Like, I'm easy peasy lemon squeezy for the most part. I won't sleep in the bathroom. But I mean, as long as that's not something I've gotta attend with, I'm good.

Lindsay (00:43:45):

Okay. Yeah. Great. A pacifist.

Choklate (00:43:48):

Well, no.

Lindsay (00:43:48):

Living, living in acceptance. Correct. There we go. <laugh>.

Choklate (00:43:53):

Because what is resistance? Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>, but an obstacle. Yep. So what is there to resist? For me, I feel like what I'm learning, I think more than anything right now in life and specifically with this, is like the chips fall where they insist. So if you just get over it and let them, then you might find that you're enjoying the journey a lot more than if you try to control where the chips are falling, you know? So

Lindsay (00:44:16):

Put that on a T-shirt.

Choklate (00:44:18):

There's that.

Lindsay (00:44:20):

Um, do you have any pre-show rituals that you do or that you were thinking about doing? Freak

Choklate (00:44:26):

Out.

Lindsay (00:44:27):

<laugh> Just freak out.

Choklate (00:44:28):

That has been my traditional pre-show ritual, but I think I'm gonna develop a new one this time. I think what I'd like for my pre-show ritual to consist of is some group breathing and a, a deep meditation moment with my, with my stage family. And, um, I don't know, probably a stretch or two, something like that. Some self care, some sort of like self-care regimen before we get on stage is what I'm feeling like is gonna be the thing.

Lindsay (00:44:57):

I think sounds really nice. It

Choklate (00:44:59):

Is. <laugh>, I'm certified yoga meditation instructor and so I intend to harass everyone with self-care moments regularly. I love

Lindsay (00:45:08):

When people harass me to take care of myself. It feels

Choklate (00:45:10):

Nice. Well, wouldn't be like you. Let's take a breath. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:45:12):

Now <laugh>. Um, and then just finally, um, if you could say anything Mm-Hmm. To the people that you'll be performing for on this tour. Oh wow. What would you say to them? Um,

Choklate (00:45:26):

I would say that wherever you find yourself in the music, to just embrace that moment. Like literally find yourself in the songs, find yourself in the music. And I think everyone that's there obviously are already fans of the music, but I wonder sometimes if people think about where they are in the songs that they love. And so I would say for everyone who's watching to find your literal space inside the songs that you love, every song that you hear, find yourself inside of it. That's what I would do if I were in the stands. That's a beautiful

Lindsay (00:46:01):

Thing to say to people. Oh,

Choklate (00:46:03):

I hope it

Lindsay (00:46:04):

Works. <laugh>. Thank you. Choklate. Thank you. Hi. Okay. Hi. Um, can you just say your name and what you're doing on tour with MoVI?

Andrea Whitt (00:46:26):

My name is Andrea Whitt and I am playing violin with Moby

Lindsay (00:46:30):

And I know you also pay play pedal steel. Yes, but there's no pedal steel on this tour.

Andrea Whitt (00:46:36):

There's none on this tour, but we did use pedal steel at the Masonic Temple in the shows we did in Hollywood,

Lindsay (00:46:42):

Which is so good. I mean, you were trying to show me how you play that thing and it's crazy. It's so fun.

Andrea Whitt (00:46:47):

Um, I'm gonna miss it. It's staying home in Los Angeles,

Lindsay (00:46:50):

The steal <laugh>. Um, is this your first proper tour with Mopey? Yes.

Andrea Whitt (00:46:56):

This is the first tour with movie. Yeah. It's

Lindsay (00:46:58):

Very exciting. Have you toured in, uh, Europe before?

Andrea Whitt (00:47:02):

I have. I did a three year world tour. A three year. Three year? Yeah. With Zuo. And actually Zu covered one of your songs. Moby Yeah. I'll have really well on his, his latest, one of his latest albums. He's like the biggest rock star in Italy, and we had like a 13 piece band and we hit 52 countries in three years.

Lindsay (00:47:22):

Whoa. Yeah, that's

Andrea Whitt (00:47:24):

So I've I've seen a lot. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:47:26):

Yeah. That's intense.

Andrea Whitt (00:47:27):

And touring Europe is like, it's way more fun than touring the US

Lindsay (00:47:30):

Really?

Andrea Whitt (00:47:31):

Oh my gosh. Yes. You're on the bus and you wake up in a different country like every day.

Lindsay (00:47:36):

It's not like, you know, going to sleep in Wyoming and waking up in like Kansas. I don't

Andrea Whitt (00:47:41):

Know. Totally. Yeah. And then the venues here in the US saw like the big sheds, like the amphitheaters, everything. I just realized I took one earring out, <laugh> did that to play

Lindsay (00:47:50):

Violin, purposeful and on fun.

Andrea Whitt (00:47:52):

Um, it looks like it get, I did it on purpose. It does. Um, okay, cool. So, uh, yeah, during the, the sheds here in the us um, they're kind of like in the middle of nowhere. So, you know, if you're going to like, you know, at a big amphitheater, like I, I did a big summer tour last year. There's nothing around Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. You're there and you're, you're at the amphitheater and like, I bring my yoga mat and I'm just like, I don't even want what to do during the day. But in Europe, there's so many places you can go and like, everything's so close together and, um, yeah, just go explore every day.

Lindsay (00:48:24):

So fun. Yes. Um, how, how do you feel about going out on this tour?

Andrea Whitt (00:48:29):

Oh, I'm so excited. I haven't been to Europe in like six years, so this will, this will be really, really fun. And actually some of the people I met on tour on my last tour are coming to some of our shows, so that'll be really

Lindsay (00:48:43):

Exciting. Yes. Um, how do you feel about, or no, sorry, how do you prepare mentally, physically, uhhuh for going on a tour like this?

Andrea Whitt (00:48:53):

Um, okay. Mentally, um, just clearing my mind to like practice and make space to like, memorize the new music, all this new music that we're learning. So, um, mentally and then also like, just being prepared, like a checklist of everything I have to pack. I mean, there's so many different things you have to bring to Europe and like the curly iron has to be like, has to be able to convert from like two 20 to one 10. Right. It's like all the little things so you don't like fry your hair off. Um, and then <laugh> physically preparing. Um, I mean, I, I keep up, I I have a trainer, you know, I, I work out all the time and I'm also vegan, so this is like, it's so exciting to be on a tour with a fellow vegan because being on tour when you're the only vegan is, is difficult, especially if you're touring the US and like, you know, they think, um, vegan is like a Turkey burger. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:49:48):

<laugh>. I

Andrea Whitt (00:49:48):

Mean that happens all the time. So <laugh> Yep.

Lindsay (00:49:51):

Been there. Chicken vegan, <laugh>. Um, is there anything in particular that you're excited about regarding this, this tour?

Andrea Whitt (00:49:59):

I am really excited to be on these big stages in front of like 20,000 people a night. So those shows have so much energy. Um, and I like playing the really big shows or the really small intimate shows. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. I think those are the most exciting for me. So that energy and especially European audiences are, I feel like, I don't know, they, they get into it a little bit more. I don't know, I don't wanna be like biased towards European audiences, but I feel like that whenever I'm there I feel like a little bit more energy, um, on stage,

Lindsay (00:50:34):

Maybe a little less inhi inhibited. Yeah. Um, here's a very important question. Yeah. How are you going to choose bunks on the bus?

Andrea Whitt (00:50:47):

Oh, well, it depends. I do, we have a double decker bus.

Lindsay (00:50:51):

Do we have a double decker bus? We do have a double decker.

Andrea Whitt (00:50:54):

Okay. They're all double. Okay. So that means on the, on the top level, it's all bunks and there's only top and bottom. I'm going to claim a top bunk.

Lindsay (00:51:03):

You want the top bunk? Yeah. Why do you want the top?

Andrea Whitt (00:51:05):

Well, normally if it's three up, I take the middle. 'cause that's like an easy slide in, it's like, you know, waist tight and just crawl in the bottom is like, you have to just like crawl on the ground and then you just losing stuff in corners. And then the top I have, I have never even tried to get on the top one of a three tiered bunk. Like, that's not, I'm not even doing that. I'm scared to fall out, but

Lindsay (00:51:27):

It just, I didn't even think about falling

Andrea Whitt (00:51:28):

Out. If people fall out of top bunks, it's a thing.

Lindsay (00:51:30):

You hit a bump and you're on the floor.

Andrea Whitt (00:51:32):

I mean, it's not that intense, but like, if there's like something going on a little bit with a bus, like you could potentially fall off the top bunk. Oh. But the double decker buses, since there's only two bunks, the top bunk like, isn't that high off the ground.

Lindsay (00:51:48):

Okay, great. I, I'm now so worried about everyone on the top bunk of a three tier bunk. Um, do you have any pre-show rituals that you do?

Andrea Whitt (00:51:57):

Um, I like my matcha tea. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So I like drinking matcha. And then, um, honestly, like sometimes it's annoying to do a lot of hair and makeup. You know, you're just like, I have to do this again. But kind of doing that process every day, that same routine of doing your hair and makeup, it's, you know, it's kind of, you know,

Lindsay (00:52:19):

You can use it to get you in the zone. Yeah.

Andrea Whitt (00:52:21):

It's like a meditation, kinda, you know, just getting ready and feeling glamorous.

Lindsay (00:52:26):

That's what Moby does. <laugh>. It's his glam time that really gets him in the head space. Um, do, uh, do you ever, 'cause you're playing violin, which I feel like is such a, an emotional instrument. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Do you ever get, do you ever cry a little bit?

Andrea Whitt (00:52:45):

Ooh, I

Lindsay (00:52:46):

Don't. Have you ever cried a little bit? Oh,

Andrea Whitt (00:52:48):

I, I like on stage you're

Lindsay (00:52:49):

Ever, when you Yeah. Like when you're playing an instrument on stage.

Andrea Whitt (00:52:53):

Hmm. Honestly, I don't think, I don't think I've ever, I've cried listening to other people play music for sure. But I don't, I don't think I've ever cried myself while I've been playing. Well, maybe

Lindsay (00:53:04):

This is the

Andrea Whitt (00:53:04):

Tour. Maybe this is it. Maybe

Lindsay (00:53:06):

This is the time. <laugh>. Um, and then just one last thing, if you could Uhoh Uhoh. Okay. No, no, no. We're good. If we stress out, then they'll stress out. Um, okay. One more question. Yeah. If you could say anything to the people who you'll be performing for on the tour, what would you say to them?

Andrea Whitt (00:53:22):

Oh my gosh. Just have a blast. I mean, that's what we're here for. We're here to make sure everyone is having an amazing time. Uh, you mean talking about the audience? Like what would I tell them? Yeah, yeah. Just have fun, have fun with us, you know, and the more fun you're having, it comes back to us and we have more fun and then it bounces back. You know, it's just, that's what it is. We're here to party, you know, we're here to just make music and have a great time. Yay.

Lindsay (00:53:46):

Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

Maya Paredes (00:53:48):

You. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:53:58):

Hi. Hi. Um, can you just say, uh, your name and what instrument you play?

Maya Paredes (00:54:06):

My name is Maya Paredes and I play cello.

Lindsay (00:54:08):

How long have you played the cello?

Maya Paredes (00:54:10):

I've played cello since I was 10. Uh, so 14 years.

Lindsay (00:54:15):

Wow. Age reveal.

Maya Paredes (00:54:17):

I know. It was kind of an age reveal.

Lindsay (00:54:19):

<laugh>. Whoops. Um, this is your first time touring with Moby, right? Yes. Yeah, because I remember was your first time playing with Moby? When we did the podcast Yes. Last year. Yeah. Last year's podcast that we did at Noya House?

Maya Paredes (00:54:33):

Yes.

Lindsay (00:54:34):

Wow, that's crazy.

Maya Paredes (00:54:36):

Yeah, it was so special. I feel so grateful to have been a part of that too. You know, especially now, the songs being so developed and like, there's a huge production and being able to play like just cello and guitar with some of these huge hits was like so cool.

Lindsay (00:54:53):

Yeah. I mean, it was really, really beautiful, those songs. Yeah. But now it's a whole, it's a whole other ball game.

Maya Paredes (00:54:59):

Yeah. I'm on the electric cello, you know, crazy, crazy things going on. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:55:04):

It's really exciting. Mm-Hmm, <affirmative>. Um, have you ever done a European tour before?

Maya Paredes (00:55:08):

No, this is actually my first time going to Europe in general.

Lindsay (00:55:11):

Going to your period?

Maya Paredes (00:55:11):

Yeah. Yeah. I know.

Lindsay (00:55:14):

That's really exciting.

Maya Paredes (00:55:16):

I'm really excited.

Lindsay (00:55:17):

Are you gonna try to like get out and see some stuff while you're

Maya Paredes (00:55:19):

There? Yes. Yeah, we were actually just talking about it. Um, and Moby was suggesting that we try to like, you know, see some stuff while we're there. You should and time off. And I, I wish we had more time in Paris, but I

Lindsay (00:55:33):

Know

Maya Paredes (00:55:33):

It's okay. Or Berlin. 'cause I'm half or any of

Lindsay (00:55:35):

Those cities.

Maya Paredes (00:55:36):

Yeah.

Lindsay (00:55:36):

Yeah. Yeah. How, how do you feel about going out on this tour?

Maya Paredes (00:55:41):

I'm s I'm really looking forward to it. And I feel like it's a lot of new experiences for me. Especially being on like a bus and sleeping on the bus. Um, I've only like slept in hotels on tour, so it'll be like a new experience that way. Playing the stadiums, you know? Um, and also just like, hopefully like meeting cool people, you know, out there at the shows.

Lindsay (00:56:09):

Um, how do you prepare mentally and physically for something like this?

Maya Paredes (00:56:15):

Yeah. Um, I've been trying to like, hone that in, especially the more time I have, like in between tours. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and I take time to like, do stuff with my family and like be like, feel like I am in a good mindset to leave, which really helps. Um, and like, being with my instrument and like, taking care of my health with like, nutrient dense foods and, you know, sleep. I try to sleep a lot. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> because I might not sleep on the bus. I'm not sure. <laugh>,

Lindsay (00:56:49):

Because you've never had to sleep on a bus. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Do you sleep well on like in cars or on planes and stuff?

Maya Paredes (00:56:55):

No,

Lindsay (00:56:56):

Uhoh. <laugh>.

Maya Paredes (00:56:57):

So, we'll, we'll see. I think I'll be fine.

Lindsay (00:56:59):

I think you're gonna be fine. I think you'll be exhausted and you'll just

Maya Paredes (00:57:02):

Exactly.

Lindsay (00:57:03):

You know, you might also find that like sleeping on buses is your favorite.

Maya Paredes (00:57:07):

It might reveal something that I,

Lindsay (00:57:10):

That you never knew. How could

Maya Paredes (00:57:11):

You know? Yeah, exactly. Um, I may have to be in a bus the rest of

Lindsay (00:57:14):

My life. So I've been asking some of the other people how they're gonna choose their bunk. But you don't even have an, a preconceived notion. Well, you have an idea. Okay.

Maya Paredes (00:57:21):

I've been pulling my friends <laugh>, um, because I'm like, which one do I choose? So apparently if you're down at the bottom, you feel the, the road, the, and it's like the wheels. So that's like one thing and you get more noise from the street or the whatever road you're on. Um, if you're on the top, you feel more when like the bus turns or like, you know, there's more, like if there's a bump, you feel it a lot more on the top. So I guess the middle is the way to go. Um,

Lindsay (00:57:52):

Okay. At

Maya Paredes (00:57:53):

Least <laugh>.

Lindsay (00:57:54):

I love that you're doing the research. You're like, you don't, you wanna be

Maya Paredes (00:57:57):

Prepared. I'm trying. Yeah. I'm trying to

Lindsay (00:57:59):

Be prepared. You don't have to ask someone to switch halfway through.

Maya Paredes (00:58:02):

We'll see <laugh>.

Lindsay (00:58:04):

Yeah. Um, is there anything, um, in particular that you're excited about, about this tour?

Maya Paredes (00:58:10):

I love the music. Yeah. And Moby is such an icon and being able to play such, um, like pretty impactful music for a lot of people is really special. And I'm really excited to be a part of that. Yeah.

Lindsay (00:58:26):

Um, do you have pre-show rituals? Like, do you have to do some sort of like, special finger stretch for cello

Maya Paredes (00:58:31):

Playing? You know, there's a lot

Lindsay (00:58:33):

<laugh>, there's

Maya Paredes (00:58:34):

A whole bag of worms. There's a lot of stuff.

Lindsay (00:58:36):

Is that, there is. I

Maya Paredes (00:58:37):

Could do and I choose to do like a fraction of it, <laugh>, but there's, there's some things to like, release tension in your arms. Like, I'll put up my hand like this and like push down very slowly. It's supposed to like, ooh, I feel it now. You like release tension this way? Both hands. Um, and usually I'll just like stretch my whole body and try to like, work on my shifting and stuff. 'cause you know, when you're sweaty or you're cold, it's like a different, your fingers feel different. So I just want them to feel nice and easy.

Lindsay (00:59:12):

Is there something about playing a cello? Because like when you're singing and you're looking out, that's a whole different thing. Yeah. But like, when you're in your world of the cello Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Do you ever like kind of get lost and forget where you are?

Maya Paredes (00:59:22):

Yeah. Oh, all the time. Especially if I close my eyes, like, then I really am like in it and in the sound and forget where I am for sure.

Lindsay (00:59:31):

<laugh> sounds kind of fun. Kinda

Maya Paredes (00:59:32):

Trippy. It's really fun. Yeah. <laugh> maybe I'm addicted to that feeling.

Lindsay (00:59:36):

<laugh>. Yeah. Well there are worse things to be addicted to. That's very true. Um, okay. And then finally, Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> I'll just say, is there, if you could say anything to the people that will be at the shows on the tour, what would you say to them?

Maya Paredes (00:59:51):

Um,

Lindsay (00:59:53):

<laugh>. Sorry. Cinnamon's just growling at my feet. Yeah. <laugh>. Hi bud.

Maya Paredes (00:59:59):

That's such a, I feel like a big question. I, um, just to be present and that I think all of us are doing our best to give this music, um, the best life that it deserves in this form that it's taking. There's a lot of like, very cool, I think maybe surprises, you know, twist to some of these songs that people haven't heard. And I think, um, it'll be really special for people to be in the same space and, um, hear the, and be in the moment with us. So yeah.

Lindsay (01:00:34):

I love that. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks May. Of course. Hi. Hi. Hi. Um, can you do me a huge favor and just say, um, your name and what instrument you're playing on the tour?

Tripp Beam (01:00:56):

I'm Tripp Beam and I'm playing drums.

Lindsay (01:00:59):

And this is not your first time playing drums with Moby. Am I correct in saying that? Correct. And have you toured with Moby properly before?

Tripp Beam (01:01:08):

Some in the us We've been to New York, but yeah, I've been playing with him for I think about 11 years now.

Lindsay (01:01:16):

And how do you feel about going out on this tour? This is your first like, European tour with Moby. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Like multi-city tour.

Tripp Beam (01:01:23):

Yeah. Great. I feel very, uh, excited and, um, grateful that we're gonna be going to all these places and, you know, it's not a ton of time. It's gonna be pretty jam packed, but if I don't like it, I'll be home before I know it. <laugh>, but

Lindsay (01:01:39):

<laugh>. And if you do, it won't be, it won't be long enough. Yeah. Um, how do you prepare mentally and physically for a tour like this?

Tripp Beam (01:01:48):

So the main thing is for me is just knowing the music. Getting the music down, which starts right when I receive it, you know, from, from the artist. And then, you know, past that. It just comes down to like physically eating well, making sure I'm getting enough rest before we go out. And, um, also being real happy about it, you know, excited. 'cause I think that that helps mentally too.

Lindsay (01:02:14):

Is there anything about this tour that you're particularly excited about? Um, costumes,

Tripp Beam (01:02:21):

<laugh> <laugh>. I'm mainly excited about the venues. Yeah. 'cause they're gonna be probably the biggest venues that I've ever played, so I'm really looking forward to that. Also looking forward, I, I guess, to being on a bus, you know, it'll be my first time like in Europe on a bus, so that'll be exciting.

Lindsay (01:02:40):

And do you have bunk preferences?

Tripp Beam (01:02:43):

I don't, I haven't even thought that far yet. But

Lindsay (01:02:45):

You haven't thought about your bunk?

Tripp Beam (01:02:47):

No, but you know, it makes me think of when I was a kid and I would go stay at friends' houses. Like if I had a preference for, for them, if they had bunk beds. I think I would always say the top, but I'm sorry.

Lindsay (01:02:59):

How would that, how would top bunk translate to a bus?

Tripp Beam (01:03:03):

I

Lindsay (01:03:03):

Don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's some physics I can't understand. Do you have any pre-show rituals? Like, do you have to do some sort of stretch or do you do something weird that I can't even imagine.

Tripp Beam (01:03:14):

I just stretch. Um, I make sure my wrists are somewhat warm and, um, I might, you know, go through some like drum rudiments on a practice pad before, uh, to get my hands warmed up, but nothing too crazy.

Lindsay (01:03:30):

Um, just finally, if you could say anything to the people that are in the audience on this tour, what would you say to them?

Tripp Beam (01:03:38):

I would just say enjoy it, you know, like, um, it's, it's a celebration of the album and, um, yeah, just have fun. It's gonna be a big party, I think. So.

Lindsay (01:03:55):

That's great. Thank you, Tripp.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:04):

Hey Lindsay, how's it going?

Lindsay (01:04:06):

Hi, Jonathan. This is a very exciting moment for anyone listening because we're interviewing Jonathan, who also is editing this podcast. Um, so if any of this makes it in, it'll be a fricking miracle. <laugh>.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:19):

We'll see.

Lindsay (01:04:19):

Okay. So can you just say your name and what you're doing on tour?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:23):

My name's Jonathan and I am playing bass.

Lindsay (01:04:26):

And are you doing anything else?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:28):

Uh, I'm also the music director. That just means I rehearse the band when Moby's not there. It's not that special.

Lindsay (01:04:34):

I think it's pretty special. I mean, I wouldn't know how to do it. Um, and how have you toured with Moby before?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:40):

Yeah, so me and Tripp have been, uh, with Moby for about the same amount of time. So we did a little mini tour, uh, to New York City and we did a little residency in LA and then we've done a bunch of little one-offs, but this is totally, totally different. Um, it's a lot more going on,

Lindsay (01:04:55):

But How do you feel about it?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:56):

Pretty nervous.

Lindsay (01:04:58):

<laugh>.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:04:58):

Pretty nervous. Yeah. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:05:01):

Um, why do you feel nervous?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:05:03):

Uh, there's just, you know, it's a lot of unknowns. I haven't done, you know, the, actually the most nervous I ever was, I, I ran playback 'cause it's electronic music, so there's a lot of drum machines and samples that you have to trigger. And so the last tour, I, I had to run the playback rig and that was the scariest thing, the first one. And then once it worked, then I was fine. So I think it's, uh, it's just a lot of unknown stuff with this one.

Lindsay (01:05:25):

Yeah. I guess. I mean, live performances are a lot.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:05:28):

Yeah.

Lindsay (01:05:29):

It's intense. Yeah.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:05:29):

Yeah.

Lindsay (01:05:30):

Um, how do you, I mean, your prep for this tour is gonna be different than anyone else's because you are so on the back end of Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> putting all of it together. How do you prepare for a tour like this?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:05:42):

Uh, I mean, so I prepare charts for the musicians so they know exactly how the arrangements go, um, the way Moy wants it to go. Um, I don't know. I actually joined a gym <laugh>, I joined a gym and I've been spending 30 minutes on the cycle every day to try to

Lindsay (01:05:56):

Get that cardio up.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:05:56):

I'm 42 now. I'm not as <laugh> thin or light as it used to be. So I'm trying to make myself feel a little better.

Lindsay (01:06:02):

Get that twinkle toes back.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:06:03):

Yeah. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:06:04):

Um, <laugh>, is there anything that you're really excited about for this tour? Yeah.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:06:09):

Well, I mean, I've never played big stadiums like that. That's really exciting. But also at the end of the day, I like, I like rehearsing as much as I like performing. I just like playing music with people. It's like, yeah, it's my favorite thing.

Lindsay (01:06:23):

I mean, and it's gonna be crowds, real, real audiences.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:06:27):

You know, what the crowds aren't as... The bigger the audience, the less intimidating it is because like, an, a crowd is a thing, where as like playing for one, like one person is terrifying or a couple of people.

Lindsay (01:06:37):

Oh, the, the scariest,

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:06:38):

You know, it's like, because you've auditioned too, like auditions.

Lindsay (01:06:40):

the worst.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:06:40):

are terrifying, but like an audience, especially if you can't really see anybody's faces, it's just like a thing. Also in my position, I'm more nervous about making sure Moby's happy than, than the audience itself.

Lindsay (01:06:52):

Yeah. Well you have a different job Yeah. Than everyone else on that stage with you. <laugh> uh, do you have a bunk strategy?

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:06:59):

You know, I, so I heard all the other questions. Uh, I would didn't think about it. Uh, I'm totally fine being on the top. Uh, it's fine. And I've slept on buses before too, so it's, it's the top's fine.

Lindsay (01:07:10):

So, you know, you can, you, you're one of those people that can sleep anywhere though.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:07:12):

Yeah, I can, I can sleep on a plane easier than my own bed because

Lindsay (01:07:16):

That's be, that's insane. Okay. So then you have an advantage. Um, pre-show rituals,

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:07:21):

Sound check, make sure everything's working. That, that's.

Lindsay (01:07:23):

Just logistical.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:07:24):

Yeah.

Lindsay (01:07:25):

I mean, that makes a lot of sense. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and then if you could say anything to the people in the audience on this tour.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:07:32):

Thanks. Thanks for coming. Thanks for coming. The, this is the reason we get to do it. And also Tripp's the only one who mentioned the album, and so we should talk about Play 25. This is exciting. This album's been around for 25 years and, uh, I really hope people get to hear these new iterations of these songs 'cause Moby's awesome. And they, they sound great.

Lindsay (01:07:51):

I was just to, just listening to rehearsal and it sounds really good.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:07:55):

Moby did a really, really good job.

Lindsay (01:07:57):

It sounds kind of crazy good. Like the best I've ever heard some of these songs.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:08:00):

It's really good. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:08:01):

Okay. Well, hell yeah. All right. Thanks Jonathan.

Jonathan Nesvadba (01:08:03):

Yeah.

Lindsay (01:08:12):

Um, hi Moby.

Moby (01:08:13):

Hi Linds.

Lindsay (01:08:15):

So we are

Moby (01:08:17):

Posed,

Lindsay (01:08:18):

Posed in positions that you can't see if you're listening to this, but trust me they are. Cool. Yeah. Like ready

Moby (01:08:23):

For action. Uh,

Lindsay (01:08:23):

Ready for action. So we are currently in the rehearsal space where the entire band is here rehearsing for the, uh, upcoming tour. The show, the upcoming tour. Um, there's a bunch of stuff up here on the stage that is meant to resemble the stage from the touring stage, which is, you know, how you, you you music people talk how you artist. Yeah. Um, but I thought maybe you could show me around the stage. Do a little stage tour.

Moby (01:08:52):

Okay. So over here, this is Guitar Land.

Lindsay (01:08:56):

What's in this box?

Moby (01:08:58):

Uh, the guitar stuff for fixing guitars, tuning guitars. Chewing gumming guitars. Chewing

Lindsay (01:09:04):

Gumming.

Moby (01:09:04):

That's I imagine for this chewing gum. Oh, it's just gum. And then you've got this fancy look at that strobe tuner chewing. It's like Star Trek look. And, and when you sing, is it, ah, see, changing the tone.

Lindsay (01:09:18):

Well, you're doing a lot of beat.

Moby (01:09:19):

I dunno what I'm doing. Yeah, nevermind. Okay, so this is, and and here's that's Bagel Bagel. Do do you wanna introduce yourself?

Raul (01:09:29):

Oh, hi, I'm Raul, filling in for Skillz. Um, I'm not normally here, but, uh, yeah, this is Guitar Land.

Moby (01:09:36):

Guitar land. And these are the wireless things. Wireless. That's a guitar.

Lindsay (01:09:40):

That's a guitar.

Moby (01:09:41):

A guitar. Um, thank you. Absolute.

Lindsay (01:09:45):

This is all the wireless things for what?

Moby (01:09:47):

Everything's wireless. Well, almost everything's wireless. Like my guitar does not have a cable, it has a, it's wireless. So it goes through the air from there to there, and then it goes to both the monitor land and front of house that we're gonna get to soon. But what

Lindsay (01:10:02):

Does this machine do that that big machine doesn't do in the front?

Moby (01:10:07):

Um, they're two completely different things. I

Lindsay (01:10:10):

Know.

Moby (01:10:10):

Okay.

Lindsay (01:10:11):

But what I don't understand, so

Moby (01:10:12):

Basically, so one of these machines, this is an amp simulator. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So that way, instead of bringing hu you, you know, when you see like pictures of Motley crew on stage and they have walls of amplifiers. Yeah. Instead of that, we just have this one little box. So my guitar goes into that and it replicates that wall of amplifiers

Lindsay (01:10:32):

I see

Moby (01:10:33):

Perfectly. And it weighs like five pounds and much easier to bring around than a giant wall of amplifiers.

Lindsay (01:10:41):

Yeah, no, that makes a lot of sense. So these

Moby (01:10:42):

Little guys, little antennas pick up,

Lindsay (01:10:45):

They're shooting out sound,

Moby (01:10:47):

Um, from my guitar.

Lindsay (01:10:48):

Wow. Yeah. That is so cool.

Moby (01:10:49):

And this is where Jonathan is, except he's also recording the sound right now. So let's pretend he's there.

Lindsay (01:10:53):

Good job, Jonathan. What can't he do?

Moby (01:10:55):

Hi, Jonathan. Um, That's Jonathan's bass. It says Jaguar. Jaguar <laugh>. Um, okay. And then here we're in string land. Do you guys wanna introduce yourselves even though I think you did in the interview time Anyway.

Andrea Whitt (01:11:08):

I'm Andrea Whitt.

Maya Peredes (01:11:09):

I'm Maya Paredes.

Moby (01:11:12):

And look at all this stuff, Lynn. So that, look at that crazy cello. Doesn't it look like the future?

Lindsay (01:11:17):

It does. That is a future cello if I've ever seen one. It's just so it doesn't have like the body on the outside. It's just a kind of a, a cello pole. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it looks really, really cool.

Moby (01:11:29):

Cool. And look, the violin, the violin's also from the future, it's like some future, like it's the Cantina band.

Lindsay (01:11:35):

Violin don't need no, no bodies for strings anymore. Why, uh, string science?

Andrea Whitt (01:11:42):

Well, these are just, um, they're electric instruments.

Lindsay (01:11:45):

They're electric. So you don't have the reverberation. Exactly. Wow. Okay. And

Moby (01:11:49):

Then all these effects that make everything psychedelic and interesting. How

Lindsay (01:11:52):

Do you know you just, how, how do you know what to do? <laugh>. How do you know? Yeah. Really? Yeah.

Moby (01:12:01):

Yeah. Just you turn 'em

Lindsay (01:12:02):

On. You do you tell, do you tell everyone what kind of pedals they should push?

Moby (01:12:05):

No. These the, I I don't know what those pedals do, but I imagine they make things sound interesting. Oh. Um, then we go over here to Tripp.

Lindsay (01:12:12):

Tripp our drummer. Hi. Tripp.

Moby (01:12:15):

And these are drums,

Lindsay (01:12:17):

Just fyi. Okay, great. Those are really pretty drums. These drums are, they look like wood. They're pretty wood on the outside of, they're so pretty.

Moby (01:12:25):

I think they look like wood.

Lindsay (01:12:27):

Are they really? Wood?

Moby (01:12:28):

One assumes they are actually wood. Yeah. Whoa.

Lindsay (01:12:31):

Are they Tripp? They're maple wood Maplewood. Finished in walnut Hot. This

Moby (01:12:36):

What's Lindsay, do you wanna ask about the screen?

Lindsay (01:12:38):

Yeah. So in front of you Tripp there is like a plexiglass sort of shield. Why, why on earth would you, so do you wanna tell it or should I let Tripp tell it? Um,

Moby (01:12:48):

Either way is fine.

Tripp Beam (01:12:49):

From what I understand, it keeps the symbols from bleeding into the vocal mics on stage. Keeps everything under control

Moby (01:12:57):

Because Lynn's like a, a voice, even like a loud voice is never going to be as loud as a symbol. Wow. So

Lindsay (01:13:04):

This is protecting the symbol sound from going into the vocalists microphones.

Moby (01:13:08):

Because imagine the vocal microphone up there is recording, or not recording, but is

Lindsay (01:13:13):

Amplifying,

Moby (01:13:14):

Amplifying the voice. And the voice is me going my dreams like a very quiet little voice. And then back here is Tripp the drum monster hitting the symbols as loud as he can. And my little vocal mic, which is supposed to pick up my delicate little voice Aw. Is in fact picking up <inaudible>.

Lindsay (01:13:33):

And that's bad. So you gotta put a plexiglass.

Moby (01:13:36):

Yeah. It's not ideal, but look, he can see through, people can see. It

Lindsay (01:13:40):

Looks kind of cool.

Moby (01:13:40):

It's a little bit fish tanky.

Lindsay (01:13:41):

It looks like maybe Tripp is a dangerous person who has to be kept in sort in some sort of

Moby (01:13:46):

Like Oh, like Il from the Muppets.

Lindsay (01:13:47):

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Like we kept in a sort of Hannibal Lecter style enclosure. Yeah.

Moby (01:13:53):

Like, and then we sort of like throw food over the top

Lindsay (01:13:55):

<laugh>.

Moby (01:13:57):

And then we move over here to our friend Julie. Um, Julie will have multiple, she'll have three or four keyboards on tour, but for the sake of rehearsal, she has two. Um, and also, hi Julie. Hi.

Lindsay (01:14:09):

Hello.

Moby (01:14:10):

<laugh>, uh, <laugh> <laugh>. And Julie also has a little good luck Bunny here. That bagel was enjoying earlier Bagel

Lindsay (01:14:16):

Did rip it off of Julie's purse, but

Moby (01:14:18):

Not, not in a mean way. More than just a sort of like, she wanted to show it. She's kind popped it off. Yeah. It's still got a little bit of moisture from Bagel saliva. But that's, that's,

Lindsay (01:14:26):

Sorry about that. No,

Moby (01:14:27):

It's such good luck. Speaking

Lindsay (01:14:28):

Of Bagel,

Moby (01:14:29):

Where's Bagel Bagel?

Lindsay (01:14:33):

Oh, there she is. Bagel. Oh, she's just licking crumbs off the floor, I'm sure.

Moby (01:14:37):

Um, and what you might also notice here is Julie has an iPad that shows you like to see. Do you want, can you spin around? Erin?

Lindsay (01:14:45):

You should go look. See. Oh, look,

Moby (01:14:47):

I don't even have that. Um, so now we're gonna walk over to Singing Land. Okay.

Lindsay (01:14:51):

Well, Julie's also singing land. Julie?

Moby (01:14:53):

Yeah. Julie's

Lindsay (01:14:54):

And she's a but she's a separate part of singing land.

Moby (01:14:56):

Julie's a multihyphenate. She's playing keyboard. She's singing, maybe you can play guitar.

Lindsay (01:15:00):

She's sorting out complicated mathematical musical things. Yeah.

Moby (01:15:04):

Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Um, and then over here we have Nadia and Choklate.

Lindsay (01:15:09):

Yay. And Choklate.

Moby (01:15:10):

I realized I never quite know how to pronounce your name.

Lindsay (01:15:13):

Choklate

Moby (01:15:15):

<laugh>. Okay, there you go. Choklate.

Lindsay (01:15:17):

Not pronounced like chocolate. The

Moby (01:15:18):

K like, I always wanna give it extra emphasis on like, chocolate

Lindsay (01:15:21):

Naia is pronunciation.

Moby (01:15:23):

I uhoh Nadia or Nadia? You just said Nadia. Here's

Lindsay (01:15:27):

Nadia. I

Choklate (01:15:28):

Hi say Nadia.

Nadia Christine Duggin (01:15:29):

The thing is, I think it's just the Canadian accent. I do because like, or Na Na yeah. I say, see now I have to like actually think about, because you say Bay. I say Nadia. Nadia

Lindsay (01:15:41):

Instead of bad.

Nadia Christine Duggin (01:15:42):

I say Nadia Do I say instead of

Lindsay (01:15:44):

Na Nadia,

Nadia Christine Duggin (01:15:45):

I see Nadia. But if someone says Nadia, I don't even hear the difference. I really

Lindsay (01:15:50):

Don't. Oh gosh.

Moby (01:15:51):

So it's, it's, it's an accidental pronunciation. It's not like you're from someplace in the world. We've never heard it. Like, you're not like from San Sebastian. You're like, oh, San Sebastian. They always say Nadia Nadia's. How you pronounce my name? Yeah. <laugh>

Lindsay (01:16:04):

Big.

Moby (01:16:05):

Um, well, like, so Lindsay, we're also dating, we, we have to rehearse in a second. Yeah. But

Lindsay (01:16:09):

I have some questions. Okay. And I think, okay. So I see everybody wearing these ear pieces. Oh yes. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And I don't fully understand. Does everyone hear the same thing in their earpieces?

Moby (01:16:21):

So here's the way music used to exist. Okay. There used to be monitors on stage. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And so when you had a band, because the, if the band's far away, like we're playing big venues at big stages. So like the drums are here and the strings are way over there. And the vocals are way over here. So like, they wouldn't hear the strings. So the strings are micd or going through an amplifier that then goes to monitor land, which we're gonna visit in a second. Okay. And then the monitor land sends a mix to every individual. It used to be through speakers, but the speakers were loud. So now it goes into these tiny little perfect headphones.

Lindsay (01:17:00):

I see. So these

Moby (01:17:01):

Are perfect headphones so everyone can hear both themselves and what the other musicians are doing.

Lindsay (01:17:06):

Whoa. That is magical. And they're shaped to fit. Do you have to get them custom made? These ear pieces? Both.

Moby (01:17:12):

There's custom and then there's non-custom.

Lindsay (01:17:16):

Whoa. That's so cool.

Moby (01:17:19):

Yeah. The custom ones are, it's what did you guys get custom ones done? I have custom, you know, when they put, when they put the thing in your ear,

Lindsay (01:17:26):

What do they do? They put like a mold in there

Moby (01:17:29):

For like five minutes. They put this mold in. Did they

Lindsay (01:17:32):

Do both ears at the same time?

Moby (01:17:33):

And it is, but it, it lets no sound through. So for five minutes you're in a state of complete deafness.

Lindsay (01:17:40):

Whoa. It's like a sensory deprivation. Yeah. It's like

Nadia Christine Duggin (01:17:44):

A little ice cream. They swirl it into your ear.

Lindsay (01:17:48):

And does it feel kind of good?

Moby (01:17:51):

I like it. <laugh>.

Lindsay (01:17:52):

<laugh>.

Moby (01:17:53):

But yeah, it's, it's so, and then you then you have your little in ears and then they, they block out almost all the sounds. So someone can be talking to you from two feet away and you won't hear them. Um, okay, so now, okay,

Lindsay (01:18:06):

Let's go to your

Moby (01:18:07):

Land. Let's over my land. And we're gonna end with the funnest part.

Lindsay (01:18:10):

Okay.

Moby (01:18:11):

So here's a guitar,

Lindsay (01:18:13):

The wireless guitar, which I know about before wireless guitar.

Moby (01:18:16):

But that's my keyboard for banging on. I don't really play it that much, I just kind of hit it. You have

Lindsay (01:18:19):

A lot of picks here. Are you afraid you'll lose a pick?

Moby (01:18:21):

You lose 'em all the time. Really?

Lindsay (01:18:22):

Because they're so,

Moby (01:18:23):

They're on stage and you're sweating and you drop them on.

Lindsay (01:18:25):

Do you ever think about getting some sort of device that ties it to your hand? So if you drop it like a, like those SSEs holders, uh, or you just rather would keep a bunch.

Moby (01:18:34):

Yeah. Rather just keep a bunch. Okay, cool. So keyboard tuner my microphone. And then here's the fun thing. Congas. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Okay. So now very quickly, 'cause we have to rehearse. Okay, let's go back over here. And then we're just gonna, oh,

Lindsay (01:18:51):

Sorry.

Moby (01:18:51):

We're gonna quickly meet everybody. Hi. And please introduce yourself.

NJ (01:18:56):

Hi, I am nj.

Moby (01:18:57):

Hi NJ. And this, so a lot of what we're doing, like the electronic stuff I recorded at my studio and we now have on the computer here. And so NJ is the computer whiz who's using Ableton to basically play the electronic stuff that live musicians can't do. Wow.

Lindsay (01:19:18):

That's really

Moby (01:19:19):

Cool. Like you notice Tripp the drummer, but Tripp's playing, as you mentioned, wooden drums. But if we want electronic drums, they have to come from the computer.

Lindsay (01:19:26):

Whoa.

Moby (01:19:27):

And we have the live strings, but if you want to have synthetic, like synth strings, they have to come from the computer. So basically we're augmenting what we do with Njs computer.

Lindsay (01:19:39):

That's amazing. That's really intense. Yeah. Yeah.

Moby (01:19:43):

<laugh>

Lindsay (01:19:43):

Pushing that button at the right time.

NJ (01:19:45):

A hundred percent. Yeah. Also, like we have clicks and we send out cues for people. So like, stuff that you won't even hear on stage, just to keep context of arrangements and stuff. So it's there, it's really dope program.

Lindsay (01:19:55):

When you say clicks, so this is something I didn't know about was you guys are all hearing like clicks to the beat up

Moby (01:20:01):

There to start the song. So it's like from the computer with NJ is basically both a click and a person's voice saying 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4. And that's when the song starts. Whoa. But no one in the audience would hear that. That's just so we know when the song's starting.

Lindsay (01:20:18):

That's really cool. Magic Secrets. All these secrets.

Moby (01:20:22):

Um, and then over here is Monitor World. Would you like to introduce yourself?

Matt Russell (01:20:26):

Hi, I'm Matt.

Moby (01:20:27):

Hi

Lindsay (01:20:27):

Matt. Hi

Moby (01:20:28):

Matt. So Erin, do you wanna come around? 'cause this is very complicated.

Lindsay (01:20:32):

There are so many buttons.

Moby (01:20:34):

Yep. And so Monitor World is basically, you were talking earlier about the in ear monitors. Everyone wears. Yeah. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:20:41):

This

Moby (01:20:42):

Sends individual because it's all computerized. It sends individual monitor mixes of the music to each person on stage. So

Lindsay (01:20:52):

Each, are these all the individual people? I'm looking at a screen with all of the, all of these different like rows.

Matt Russell (01:20:59):

Yeah. These are just basically all of the mics on stage. And then, uh, these are all of the people. So if we go up here, you have Moby's Mix right here. And he gets however much he wants of each individual thing. And everybody's got a d and Linda, are

Moby (01:21:14):

You noticing different one? The faders are all moving automatically. So this is, that's the, the

Lindsay (01:21:18):

Physical faders move every time you push a button and it's the cool, it's like there's a ghost in there. Yeah. That's so cool. I feel like I'm suddenly from like the 18 hundreds where I don't understand how, um, it's amazing.

Moby (01:21:30):

It's, it's kind of amazing. 'cause every person potentially for every song, like if you're a very complicated band or singer, every song would have its own mix set up. And so he would be pushing the button and adjusting it for every single song. Whoa. But if you have imagine 20 people on stage, all 20 of them could have individual ones.

Lindsay (01:21:49):

That's insane. Yeah.

Moby (01:21:50):

Complicated. This

Lindsay (01:21:51):

Is, this is better

Moby (01:21:53):

<laugh>. Okay, now we have one last p people, one last person to go visit. Okay. And it's back.

Lindsay (01:21:59):

This is the one. This is the one that I understand. Absolutely. Well the monitors, I don't, I can't even fathom. Okay. But also,

Moby (01:22:06):

Hi.

Lindsay (01:22:07):

Um, this is the part where I just have no idea what's going on. Yes.

Moby (01:22:11):

So we're gonna meet our friend John Pennington. So John Pennington and I, the first time we played a show together was 30 years ago.

Lindsay (01:22:21):

That's such a long time ago.

Moby (01:22:24):

And in addition to being a technical, so JP does front of house meaning, which means this is what the audience hears. JP controls every single thing that the audience hears. That's

Lindsay (01:22:35):

A lot of pressure. jp.

Moby (01:22:37):

Pardon? Do you wanna, do you wanna <laugh>, do you wanna come around and get the screen? 'cause I mean, this is Starship Enterprise Land and, uh, yeah. So, so JP, in addition to running the Starship Enterprise here is also very funny. So JP be funny.

Lindsay (01:22:57):

Well, I did not see that coming. Yeah. Comedy you, the element of surprise, that's where you really get 'em off the cuff.

Moby (01:23:04):

<laugh>. Um, I'm trying to think. Uh, there was one time we were in the north of Finland. We had played a festival. We were on the bus on the way to one of the many airports. It was probably like six in the morning. And out of nowhere you started singing songs from a band called the Wls

John Pennington (01:23:23):

<laugh>. You remember that?

Moby (01:23:25):

So like, we're completely asleep and like, so tired, hungover, sick in the bus, exhausted. And all of a sudden JP at the top of his lungs goes, alright, I am a cider drinker. I drinks it all the time. What's the side?

John Pennington (01:23:41):

I, I can't even remember the

Lindsay (01:23:42):

Song.

Moby (01:23:43):

Oh, Was what was, there was another WL song.

Lindsay (01:23:47):

Can't remember. It's, it sounds like a great tune in the

Moby (01:23:49):

Day. So, but especially the context. It's six o'clock in the morning and you're hungover and you're exhausted, and you're sick and you're asleep. And then JP starts screaming at the top of his lungs. West Country WL songs had to be there. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:24:01):

<laugh>, that's a very, very good tour story. Did you, because I feel like you guys have seen so much, so many versions of each other, I'm sure throughout the years as well.

Moby (01:24:10):

Well also, especially like, for example, like the, like the animal rights tour opening up for Sound Garden, getting booed off stage most nights. Wait, what? And then like, we did our own animal rights punk rock tour playing to an average of about 20 people a night. And then, like, the Play tour started, same thing, playing like 30 people a night, a hundred people a night, but then all of a sudden we're playing festivals to a hundred thousand people and arenas and stadiums. And so it was a lot of ups and downs.

Lindsay (01:24:39):

Well, I'm, I'm now mad at all those Sound Garden fans who booed

Moby (01:24:42):

You? They, they were more indifferent rather than contemptuous.

Lindsay (01:24:45):

Okay. Well that's

Moby (01:24:46):

The most fun though. I would say the most fun was the summer of 1995 when we did Lollapalooza.

John Pennington (01:24:53):

Uh, yeah, that was fun. Beck

Moby (01:24:55):

Pavement, Cypress Hill. Um,

John Pennington (01:25:01):

No. Were they

Moby (01:25:01):

On that? No, they were on Area one. Oh yeah, sorry. Um, Coolio. Oh, Coolio. And, um, oh, uh, Sonic Youth. And so that was a really fun, why

Lindsay (01:25:11):

Was it so fun? Because it

Moby (01:25:12):

Was like the first, for me personally, the first time I'd ever done that type of thing. Like, I'd played little raves, I'd played little concerts and bars. But it

Lindsay (01:25:20):

Was your first like massive, uh, festival.

Moby (01:25:23):

Yeah. Like it was all of a sudden, like, we were on tour. I'd never been on a tour bus before. Really? It was like just, and it was summer, it was warm, it was indie rock at its best, you know, from Sonic Youth to Beck. So it was just really nice. That

Lindsay (01:25:41):

Does sound really, really, really fun. Yeah. Do they have good snacks?

Moby (01:25:45):

Uh, I mean, I would just go to the local Whole Foods and get like, bread and peanut butter and jam. So no,

Lindsay (01:25:51):

Nothing's changed.

Moby (01:25:52):

Yeah, nothing, nothing has changed. <laugh>. Okay. So back to rehearsal time.

Lindsay (01:25:55):

Okay. They're gonna go back in rehearsal and I'm going to watch and get my, our own little private show.

Moby (01:26:12):

Okay. So Lynn, did you enjoy your trip to the rehearsal studio?

Lindsay (01:26:16):

I have. I, I have to say I did. And I also have to say that that whole time I thought I was playing bongos and here I am learning. I was actually playing congas the whole time. I'm mortified.

Moby (01:26:26):

So I have a question. Did you guys maybe, I don't know if you did, did you document bagel running around?

Lindsay (01:26:32):

We, I don't know if we got any footage of that. We did. Oh, okay. A little bit of it. But, um, because that's, but boy did she love running around in that big carpet space

Moby (01:26:39):

Because I guarantee the happiest moment of the entire tour for me will be watching Bagel running around in this giant carpet space.

Lindsay (01:26:46):

<laugh>, she had the best time. She was having so much fun. Right. Bagel. And then remember when she tore the, what do you call that? The muffler?

Moby (01:26:55):

The, there's a, when you're putting, it's called, it's called a wind sock or a windscreen is to protect the microphone from wind. You put this furry thing on top of the microphone and it looks kind of like a forest creature, like

Lindsay (01:27:14):

A little tiny baby stuffed goat.

Moby (01:27:17):

And we were doing an interview yesterday and bagel ran over and didn't attack the tiny forest creature microphone cover, but almost wanted to adopt it, like grabbed it. She

Lindsay (01:27:30):

Loved it and ran It looked like a merkin. Yeah. She was just running around with it. It was so funny. And then she wouldn't give it back to the camera person. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. That was pretty fun. Good job bagel. You really entertained us. Yes. Um, okay.

Moby (01:27:41):

So before we say goodbye,

Lindsay (01:27:43):

Well I still have some more questions. Okay. I'm not ready to say goodbye yet.

Moby (01:27:45):

Okay. I'm never ready to say goodbye,

Lindsay (01:27:47):

<laugh>. Okay. So something I wanted to ask you about that I hadn't had a, haven't had a chance to was, if you have any, when you're backstage, do you have any like rituals that you do? Do you know what I mean? Do you have to like juggle for three minutes? Do you have to like say a little prayer? Do you have to high five everyone? Do you have to like, what do you do? Okay,

Moby (01:28:09):

Boy, I, I, a lot of people have amazing backstage rituals. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. I do not. I stretch. That's it. Wow. I do a calf stretch. I do a little hamstring stretch. I do some arm stretches, wrist stretches. Just simple middle aged guy stretching. Sorry. What a disappointing answer I have.

Lindsay (01:28:27):

Can you make something up really quick that we'll all know isn't real, but just go for it.

Moby (01:28:31):

Okay. So I, a few years ago it was revealed to me that the truth of the universe is controlled by a crystalline vortex. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> that actually has a name. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> of C ctu. Okay. And so I have to do some sort of like homage and sacrifice to clar tube before going on stage. Okay. And so it usually involves some combination of like animate and inanimate matter. So I'm backstage and I have to be in a completely windowless dark room and I make this offering to Clar two.

Lindsay (01:29:04):

What do you guys stab? A banana?

Moby (01:29:06):

I can't really go into the details of it, but, 'cause some of them by conventional morays and standards aren't technically legal. But that's a big part of my pre-show ritual is, is making this offering, which again, the man steps in and says, oh, you're killing people. But I don't, it's, I don't see it that way. I just see it as part of a continuum of life.

Lindsay (01:29:28):

Yeah. Yeah. What it was called ctu.

Moby (01:29:30):

Sure. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:29:31):

Yeah. Yeah. That sounds beautiful. Okay. That was a really good fake pre-show ritual. Thank you. Um, I'm sure there's someone out there that does a version of that. Um, okay, here's another question I have. Do you have a writer, like, you know how Mariah Carey is, like, you have to have, I have to have, you know, fancy champagne that costs $10,000 and only green m and ms or something like that.

Moby (01:29:51):

Yes. It sounded like you said writer, but you meant rider, RIDER. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, okay. So as a, as a vegan who tries to be healthy, I have the sort of backstage rider that like country western musicians would ridicule me for. Are you ready?

Lindsay (01:30:12):

I'm so ready.

Moby (01:30:13):

Okay. Uh, 'cause I just wrote it down recently and sent it through one yoga mat.

Lindsay (01:30:19):

Okay.

Moby (01:30:21):

Some weights, um, either a Vitamix or a Breville blender. Okay. And then the following, oh god. Or all organic and vegan, red cabbage, oranges, carrots. A combination of dark leafy greens, mixed berries, dates and red or black grapes. That's for smoothies.

Lindsay (01:30:45):

Okay.

Moby (01:30:46):

Then clean water and bottled glass. Bottled glass bottles.

Lindsay (01:30:51):

Clean water.

Moby (01:30:52):

Clean as in like clear or good water, like not tap water.

Lindsay (01:30:55):

Okay. Um, like filtered or spring water. Yeah.

Moby (01:30:58):

And then obviously organic vegan, whole grain bread, nut butter with no ingredients other than nuts and unsweetened berry jam or compote. And then lastly, organic green or white tea with no additional flavoring. Oh,

Lindsay (01:31:15):

Boring.

Moby (01:31:16):

I know <laugh>. There was a time pre sobriety, maybe you'll appreciate this. Pre sobriety. I had a very similar rider. It was a very healthy rider, but I also was a drunk, so I had vodka on the menu. So I would make healthy smoothies with

Lindsay (01:31:31):

Vodka in them. With

Moby (01:31:32):

Vodka in them.

Lindsay (01:31:33):

Oh my gosh.

Moby (01:31:34):

I will say like, some of the smoothies with vodka were quite delicious.

Lindsay (01:31:39):

I'm sure they were. Yeah. Um, that's very, very funny. Yeah. So now it's the same thing, just minus the vodka minus,

Moby (01:31:45):

It's, it's very similar minus the vodka. Yeah.

Lindsay (01:31:48):

That's amazing. I'm sure on some level it really counteracted the vodka like now in your life, you know

Moby (01:31:53):

What I mean? Feel, I mean like, I have sometimes struggled to remember things and string sentences together, but I feel like

Lindsay (01:31:57):

Yeah, but me too. I think that's a normal thing. Sometimes brains get, there's too much happening. Too

Moby (01:32:01):

Much brains

Lindsay (01:32:02):

Happening. Yeah. Too many brains in there. <laugh>. Um, <laugh>. Um, and then, oh, when you're going to a non-English speaking location Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. Do you ever like, try to learn the language just a little bit? Or is it too daunting when you're also trying to remember songs and keep

Moby (01:32:20):

Oh, um, I mean, in some places I know I can get by a little bit with like, call it like stage language. I can also apologize for not speaking the local language. Yeah. Uh, like in, like in France, I'll say, what do I say? Excuse me.

Lindsay (01:32:41):

That's sweet. I'm sure they understand. Yeah.

Moby (01:32:44):

And then I know how to say like, which means this next song is called Blank.

Lindsay (01:32:50):

Oh, that's, see that's good. There you

Moby (01:32:53):

Go. Spain. I can do Spain, central America, south America. I can do a little bit better. Okay. 'cause I, I speak Spanish more.

Lindsay (01:32:59):

Okay, good.

Moby (01:33:00):

Um, but then other places like Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Scandinavia, people speak, most people speak English very well. So I, and also I don't speak those languages. So I, I'm at a loss. I the romance languages I can sort of do. And then in Russia, uh, I can say <inaudible>, it means thank you. Oh,

Lindsay (01:33:20):

Okay. You said that to me earlier and I was like, yeah, I don't, there's so many things this could be and I will never understand it. Um, here's, here's another question.

Moby (01:33:29):

Oh, you wanna hear one funny little language story? Of course.

Moby (01:33:32):

I might've told this before, but I'm an elderly man and I tell the same stories over and over again. <laugh>. So one time I was playing a small show in Scotland and I'm sure I've told this story 'cause it was so funny. And this man was yelling at me from the audience and I was like, is he mad at me? And he's going, mob. I was like, what? He goes, the, and I was like, I don't know what you're saying. And then the audience wearing Glasgow, they all started yelling at trying and, and the, with their glaswegian accent. So imagine a couple hundred people yelling that at you. And it was like, I was like, I don't know what you're saying. Can anyone translate glaswegian for me? And someone got up on stage and said, oh, they're saying you're brilliant. <laugh>. So, so Moby brilliant was Moby, you are brilliant Moby, you're brilliant <laugh>. And I was like, oh, that's nice. Like the way you were yelling at, I thought you were gonna come stab me in the face. It turns out they were being nice. That's

Lindsay (01:34:39):

Adorable. And really funny. Aww. Sweet. Misunderstood.

Moby (01:34:43):

Glaswegians

Lindsay (01:34:44):

Glaswegians. I never knew that's what was what you called them.

Moby (01:34:46):

Maybe you don't,

Lindsay (01:34:48):

Um, <laugh>, um, do you have like a, a a thing about touring that is the most surprising thing that most people would never ever know? Oh

Moby (01:35:00):

Hmm. Surprising thing about touring there. Okay. The thing that comes to mind, well first off, one thing logistically is I remember I was on tour with the Red Hot Chili Peppers and the Flaming Lips in 1995. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. And of course the chili peppers were the headliners and they did something I had never seen done before. I didn't know you could, I didn't know any venue in the world could do this. What they drove from the hotel to the stage, meaning their limo dropped them off. 'cause the venues were so big you could drive cars inside the venues. I don't, up until this point, I'd only ever seen like small venues. I didn't know there was a venue in the world that could fit a car in the venue. Well, so their limo, like security would come out, make sure no one approached them, and the limo would drive up to the side of the stage and someone would open the door and the chili peppers would get out of the limo right by the stairs that went up to the stage.

Lindsay (01:36:02):

That is wild.

Moby (01:36:03):

And I'd never, I was like, wow. Maybe the fanciest insane. Yeah. Uh, but so one thing people might not be aware of is the baffling contrast between being on stage and being by yourself in a dressing room. It's really, it it used to, I used to, it used to really, psychologically, it might be one of the reasons why I love drinking and doing drugs so much. Also, I'm an alcoholic and an addict. But you'd be on stage sometimes with like, okay, if you're in the audience, you walk into the venue with 50,000 people, you're there with 50,000 people when the show ends, you leave with 50,000 people. If you're the musician, you're by yourself in a windowless room that's completely quiet. You're escorted to the stage and all of a sudden you're in front of 50,000 people and it's the loudest, most crazy thing in the world. Then two seconds later you're back in a windowless room and there's this moment of like, your brain starts asking you this question with that real, like, how, how in the world was I just in front of 50,000 people and now I'm by myself? And it's quiet weird. Like it just

Lindsay (01:37:17):

Ringing ears and just

Moby (01:37:18):

Like weird Yeah. This weird cognitive dissonance of like, how do, which which was real? Is this real or was that real? How, how, how is there a universe where both facts are real?

Lindsay (01:37:29):

I also feel like there's something so deeply beautiful and amazing, but bizarre about so many people looking at you, watching you taking you in. Like, I feel like that's such a, like the, it's so bizarre, I think for the human brain to feel so seen, so very witnessed by so many people that it, that you don't know.

Moby (01:37:54):

I mean, it definitely contributes to public figure and musician entitlement, narcissism, solipsism. Yeah. Because in the y olden days, the only time that would happen is if you were a deity. Right. You know, or Napoleon. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> or, but even Napoleon would rarely stand in front of 50,000 people having them cheer for hours that they loved him. Right. So it was, it's, there's a reason why musicians do tend to disappear into their own little narcissistic brains. Yeah. It's also possibly why I like going hiking in the mountains so much. 'cause it, they're the indifference of nature, the indifference of the mountains Yeah. Is the exact opposite of that. And it's really calming

Lindsay (01:38:36):

The indifference of the mountains. Yes. The Moby story,

Moby (01:38:40):

My herbal tea

Lindsay (01:38:41):

<laugh>. Um, okay. And then just to kind of like wrap things up here, I'll do it the same way I did for the musicians when we were walking to them is if you could say anything to the people that are coming to see the shows, what would you say to them? Well,

Moby (01:38:57):

I would say to the people who are coming to the shows, um, one, thank you. Because your money is going to animal rights organizations. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So thank you for that two. Uh, having been an audience member many times, my goal as a musician is to put something on stage that really respects the audience and acknowledges the effort that they've made. Yeah. You know, people have spent a lot of money. They've made a big effort to go to this show. I want it to be great for them. You know, not for me. I mean, I, it's nice if I have a nice time, but as we mentioned, I'm happy singing Neil Young songs in my backyard. So putting something on stage that the audience really feels and uplifted by Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. So, because it's a big deal, like for someone to spend to buy an expensive ticket and to travel and to park and to do, you know, buy a t-shirt, like that's, it's a big outlay of time and money. And I feel like musicians, it's incumbent upon musicians to respect, to acknowledge and respect and sort of revere that.

Lindsay (01:40:09):

Yeah. I think that that's, that's so fascinating to think about, you know, because

Moby (01:40:14):

We've all been on the receiving end of musicians who clearly don't respect the audience. Yeah. And you're like, why am I here? Why did I make the effort? Why did I buy the ticket? Like, you're ignoring the audience and you're playing songs. No one really wants to hear like, whoa, whoa, whoa, why are

Lindsay (01:40:28):

We here? Yeah. Well, as someone who's seen the rehearsals without even the lights and the shiny things, it's pretty fun. And I'm really excited for all the people that get to see it.

Moby (01:40:41):

Well, thanks. Yeah. Um, should we say, uh, I was gonna say goodbye in a different language, but let, let's, let's say goodbye

Lindsay (01:40:50):

Vore

Moby (01:40:50):

<laugh>. Oh no, please never again

Lindsay (01:40:54):

Putting that on a loop. Um, okay. Uh, no, we can say thanks and goodbye. You wanna do that? Sure. Okay. So first of all, I wanna say thank you to Moby and to the whole band who were so kind to show me around and to talk to us for a while about their stuff. So thanks for that y'all. And also thanks to Erin Stehler who's recording this right now on the cameras and also, um, recorded the sound and the video at the studio. And thank you to Jonathan Nesvadba, who also recorded some sound of the studio and will be editing the audio for this episode. And, um, also thank you to Human Content who delivers this podcast to your phones and devices. And also thank you to Bagel who gave Moby the highlight of his tour. Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> and also is just generally the best person anyone's ever met.

Moby (01:41:48):

Wish I had something to add to that, but I don't. So, uh, I'll see you at the end of October.

Lindsay (01:41:54):

Okay, great. This is exciting. Okay.

Moby (01:41:57):

Okay. Talk to you soon. Okay.

Lindsay (01:42:00):

Bye.